Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

How much would you guys hate me if I quoted Oberon's ginormous picture?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

How much would you guys hate me if I quoted Oberon's ginormous picture?

Originally Posted by Check Essential

15 yard penalty on Oberon for the oversize pic.

Originally Posted by Cohiba

The issue with all the callouts has long been noted by the NTSB and our ASAP reports show all too many times either an incomplete understanding of the automation or the PM failing to make a timely callout. Personally I think Delta is trying to address it but the pendulum has swung too far and the Standard Text didn't help (e.g. approaching vertical path and approaching inbound course).

The Flight Safety Foundation released an industry report on Pilot Monitoring. The NTSB and FAA are hardover on the incident data and the report is an attempt to standardize what the crews should/should not do and when they should/should not do it. Looks like several Delta pilots wrote it. Its supposedly written for Pilots and no pyscho-babble. I haven't read it all, but so far like it. The final study is available on the FSF website at Flight Path Monitoring | Flight Safety Foundation

Originally Posted by MCFlyer

As a new FO, I appreciate a detailed abnormals/abort brief on the first leg of a trip. I also think it's worthwhile to re-visit the abnormals on subsequent legs. It takes very little time and sets a professional tone.

'Approaching Inbound Course' and 'Approaching Vertical Path' are also fine callouts IMHO.

What I really wish I could do as the pilot flying is configure the gear and flaps myself. It seems like everytime I want to want to configure, the Captain is talking to ATC, which causes unnecessary delays in configuring. But then again, it's probably just me...

MCFlyer

Originally Posted by Timbo

Well there's your problem, you've got to brief the briefs!

"First I'd like to hear about your Warts, then your Nats, and then we'll talk about your Lavs, and then your Ptsd and VD."

Originally Posted by gzsg

True Headings 14-17

Why does this have no signature? Who wrote it? Why is the tone so negative?

At this point shouldn't our MEC chairman be leading? Taking charge?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

True Headings is pretty much the publication of the Special Committee. They never sign that document because they don't discuss who are members of the Special Committee.



Because the Special Committee only lives to destroy the DPA or any other alternative union drive that ever happens within Delta. When your only reason for existence is to destroy other entities, you tend to be mostly negative in tone and spirit.



Yes, and he's clearly not. My opinion is that he's working as hard as he can to minimize pilot costs to his friends and partners in management. His challenge is doing that while pretending to be fighting for us.

Carl

Originally Posted by TheManager

First, I would contend it is not an official MEC newsletter. No where does it state that, on any of them. I could sit down today, write a bunch of what I believe are pertinent facts, publish them on line under the banner of 'True Headings' and hang them out as fact. An official MEC newsletter would be labeled as such and signed by a communications chairman and the author.

Ok. Next.

The Railway Labor Act makes the government a factor in every pilot contract, whether the involvement of the National Mediation Board is actual, or merely implied. There could be nine Section 6 notices in play a year from now, and the outcome of one contract has consequences for all the others. The failure or success of one pilot group plays a factor in the potential of all the others.


The managing of expectations has begun. Those expectations are being managed down. Without stated goals present in any communication from the MEC, this above statement does just what it is designed to do. Downward expectation management.


"With rationalized top and bottom wages in our industry, we are certainly better positioned to bargain for contract improvements than in the recent past."

Rationalized. What the phuque does that mean. Is that like Lee Moaks statement to Bloomberg/Business Week Magazine? "Our contracts are mature and need only adjustments on the margins."

Rationalized at the top says to me that DALPA is ok with the current benefit and compensation level at the top of our contract in relation to the industry. Worse, "rationalized wages at the bottom in our industry" implies ALPAs condoning the whip saw antics that see the lowering of wages at the regional level of our industry.

This is a giant fail. I expected more for the constituents prior to entering negotiations. Not this unsigned, meandering missive that has little value. Come on Dalpa. Step it up.

Not a way to start the eve of negotiations.

Originally Posted by gzsg

Exactly.

Maybe Malone will have a surprise run for MEC chairman in Jan.

A gallon of jet fuel is down $1 since the peak in 2013. Netting Delta an additional $4 billion in profits for 2015. Why do we care what other air lines are in section 6?

Zero goals. Zero leadership. We need a new leader in Jan. I think we should hire RA and pay him $25 million. He sets goals, communicates and succeeds.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

That's nonsense as you well know. Pilot 2 Pilot already has its name. Same with Delta Pilot Network and the Communications Committee. There is only one Special Committee and that is the committee that has the actual name of "The Special Committee." The Special Committee has been funded to date at over $100,000 and was created by ALPA national to destroy any alternate pilot union activity at Delta. I know you know this, so why the attempt at subterfuge Bar?



What does that have to do with the topic of The Special Committee?



Typically, yes. But not for The Special Committee. Their publication is called True Headings and they are ALWAYS unsigned. True Headings also NEVER uses the term Special Committee anywhere in the publication even though that is the name of their committee.



You're probably smarter than I am Bar. Which is so puzzling as to why you feel the need to purposely mislead.



When one is reading a document, the author should sign said document. One should not have to call the publisher or sign on to its website to determine who authored it. Donatelli signs his stuff. So do my reps. So does the negotiating committee. The Special Committee should be no different. But they are. They NEVER sign any of their publications. That's why my name for them is The Secret Police. Every dictatorship needs one.

Carl