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Old 12-07-2014 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Guys,

Look for 5 day trips coming to most domestic categories
Scoop, thanks for the scoop.

Any guess on which categories will be spared from this insanity?
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So it'll probably be Saban



vs

Jameis



I think there needs to be an avatar bet between Satchip and 80.


I've got 22 days left to get rid of mine.
I don't think it will come to that. O beats F and A beats O and then A beats O again. I do think the selection committee got it right.
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Scoop, thanks for the scoop.

Any guess on which categories will be spared from this insanity?

Not sure. I think the plan is to align the legacy south domestic categories with the legacy north domestic categories.

Scoop
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Guys,

Look for 5 day trips coming to most domestic categories starting in February. Supposedly a small percentage of trips, maybe 10%.

Although I don't intend to bid 5 day trips, in general the more variety the better. Most commuters who can hold them would easily be able to fly three trips now and break 75 Hours.

Scoop
Well, after 117 most of the 5-days suck. The very few that are commutable do go senior, but the rest go to the bottom lineholders or reserves that want nothing to do with them.

Should be required to make them commutable if they are going to build them. Nothing like a 5 day with an 0730 report day one and a release at 1930 on day 5.
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:24 PM
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Thanks LL and Elvis for the info!
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Well, after 117 most of the 5-days suck. The very few that are commutable do go senior, but the rest go to the bottom lineholders or reserves that want nothing to do with them.

Should be required to make them commutable if they are going to build them. Nothing like a 5 day with an 0730 report day one and a release at 1930 on day 5.
Let's say it credited 35 hours or a bit more, would it then be worth it though?
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Well, after 117 most of the 5-days suck. The very few that are commutable do go senior, but the rest go to the bottom lineholders or reserves that want nothing to do with them.

Should be required to make them commutable if they are going to build them. Nothing like a 5 day with an 0730 report day one and a release at 1930 on day 5.
I think it's the ADG, actually. The company needs you to average 5:15/day to avoid credit time. If you give them one comfy leg on your first and last day, and you're only on a 3-day... something has to give. The shorter the trip, the less opportunity to offset a commutable start and/or finish.

It seems to me that a 5-day has a better chance of being commutable than a 4-day.
Old 12-07-2014 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
I probably need to call scheduling on this one, but I'd like to at least think I know the answer before I ask the question.

I finish IOE on the 19th of December. My reserve obligation ends on 20 December. I have a golden day on 21 December. Is it possible to be assigned a trip on 20 December?

My logic: Long call starts at 12:01 on 20 December. If I am assigned short call the earliest they can do it is 10am, plus 2 hours to get to airport which means noon. Since the following day is a golden day, I am released at noon.

Is my logic sound? Just trying to figure out if I need to commute to my crash pad in NYC or if I can safely chill out at the house with no legal reserve obligation.
I would check your schedule when you finish OE. They generally have short calls assigned by 3 pm, and you can look at the reserve availability list to see if other short calls have been assigned. I have Personal Dropped a day after a single reserve day in order to not get short call and I have never gotten short call in that circumstance. You could however be given a trip on long call, which does not require a noon release. The noon release only applies to short call.

Edit: after I typed this I realized there have been numerous replies so I guess I'm beating a dead horse!
Old 12-07-2014 | 05:09 PM
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I'm just glad they are finally sharing the love so other categories will get to "enjoy" domestic 5-days.

Good luck!

Old 12-07-2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Well, after 117 most of the 5-days suck. The very few that are commutable do go senior, but the rest go to the bottom lineholders or reserves that want nothing to do with them.

Should be required to make them commutable if they are going to build them. Nothing like a 5 day with an 0730 report day one and a release at 1930 on day 5.
In my catagory, DTW7ERB, after 117, the 5 day trips are most likely to be commutable. I'm a commuter and my favorite trips are high time, commutable, 3 day trips (other than the occasional Europe trip they don't exist anymore). 4 day commutable trips are my second preference and they've pretty much disappeared since 117. The 5 day trips are mostly commutable...I hate the true 5 day trips but I can tolerate the trips that end in a red eye with a 25-30 hour layover in SFO or LAS before the last leg. It's only 4 days of flying.

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