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Old 01-02-2015 | 11:11 AM
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Well I was kind of excited and feeling good about this AE until I read this:

"Our projection is at least 50 SEA crews (50 Captains and 50 F/Os) by the end of 2015. There are 15 SEA-73N Captain and 15 SEA-73N First Officer positions contingent on CVG and SLC pilots bidding out."

Hmm... That tells me that possibly 15% reduction in SLC staffing to fund SEA... what a bummer. That would wipe out ALL the gains I was predicted to make in SLC for the next couple years, plus the single guy I've moved up in the last 3 years. Shrinking the SLC cat will make my bidding power effectively decrease significantly. How this is all reconciled with the 35 posted and unfilled SLC 73NB positions for "new guys" I don't know... I suspect it shows that the projected "growth" in SLC was totally illusory and doesn't exist, as they are NOW trying to shrink SLC (and/or CVG, looks like they don't care which) by up to 15%.

Every time some advancement or good seniority news happens, I only have to wait a month or two to get slapped in the face again with more backwards sliding. We'll see what happens on this AE, but the Network desire to shrink SLC 73 by up to 15 guys (15%) doesn't bode well.
Old 01-02-2015 | 11:18 AM
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Feb CQ training is backdoor-able.
Old 01-02-2015 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Well I was kind of excited and feeling good about this AE until I read this:

"Our projection is at least 50 SEA crews (50 Captains and 50 F/Os) by the end of 2015. There are 15 SEA-73N Captain and 15 SEA-73N First Officer positions contingent on CVG and SLC pilots bidding out."

Hmm... That tells me that possibly 15% reduction in SLC staffing to fund SEA... what a bummer. That would wipe out ALL the gains I was predicted to make in SLC for the next couple years, plus the single guy I've moved up in the last 3 years. Shrinking the SLC cat will make my bidding power effectively decrease significantly. How this is all reconciled with the 35 posted and unfilled SLC 73NB positions for "new guys" I don't know... I suspect it shows that the projected "growth" in SLC was totally illusory and doesn't exist, as they are NOW trying to shrink SLC (and/or CVG, looks like they don't care which) by up to 15%.

Every time some advancement or good seniority news happens, I only have to wait a month or two to get slapped in the face again with more backwards sliding. We'll see what happens on this AE, but the Network desire to shrink SLC 73 by up to 15 guys (15%) doesn't bode well.
Kinda what I thought. The 15 positions are split between SLC and CVG. I would imagine most of the CVG guys who are left will stay until they boot them out so most of those 15 will be from SLC.

Are there really 35 unfilled positions on the 73N from the last couple bids?
Old 01-02-2015 | 11:39 AM
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So 132 positions on this AE are "contingent". This seems to be a new technique that I haven't seen before. Has anyone else seen a "contingent" bid before?

I'm assuming that the issue is the training pipeline. I.e., have a DTW-777A bid ATL-777A to "right size" the base. If they don't bid out of DTW, we'll just deadhead them...but we really don't want more training events. Am I reading this right?

It seems training has finally become an issue. If the company truly wanted to "right-size" each base then they'd simply displace as they've done in the past.
Old 01-02-2015 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
So 132 positions on this AE are "contingent". This seems to be a new technique that I haven't seen before. Has anyone else seen a "contingent" bid before?

I'm assuming that the issue is the training pipeline. I.e., have a DTW-777A bid ATL-777A to "right size" the base. If they don't bid out of DTW, we'll just deadhead them...but we really don't want more training events. Am I reading this right?

It seems training has finally become an issue. If the company truly wanted to "right-size" each base then they'd simply displace as they've done in the past.
Yeah, that is the way I take it. They need to displace to right size some categories but they don't want guys having bumping rights via displacements, potential moving costs, and guys without freezes. With all the movement they will just not award some vacancies until some guys bid out of some positions.
Old 01-02-2015 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
So 132 positions on this AE are "contingent". This seems to be a new technique that I haven't seen before. Has anyone else seen a "contingent" bid before?

I'm assuming that the issue is the training pipeline. I.e., have a DTW-777A bid ATL-777A to "right size" the base. If they don't bid out of DTW, we'll just deadhead them...but we really don't want more training events. Am I reading this right?

It seems training has finally become an issue. If the company truly wanted to "right-size" each base then they'd simply displace as they've done in the past.
Elvis good to have you back.

My opinion only, but I think crew resources uses pilot AE desires, prior to a bid, to model the possibilities of bid management. What I mean is that some guys have a standing bid, and crew resources models using that (IMO bad information).

Stated another way, and this is how I see it shaking out, look at the Dtw 747 and Dtw 777 categories. Neither is deltas sweetheart fleet. If dal wants to close both categories and minimize training, they use standing bid data. If the crews want to trick the system, 747 pilots should all have a standing displacement bid for the 777 Dtw and Dtw 777 pilots should all have a standing displacement preference for Dtw 747.

That scenario would IMO, cause some serious consternation and hand ringing in crew resources.

I hope that was clear.
Old 01-02-2015 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Elvis good to have you back.

My opinion only, but I think crew resources uses pilot AE desires, prior to a bid, to model the possibilities of bid management. What I mean is that some guys have a standing bid, and crew resources models using that (IMO bad information).

Stated another way, and this is how I see it shaking out, look at the Dtw 747 and Dtw 777 categories. Neither is deltas sweetheart fleet. If dal wants to close both categories and minimize training, they use standing bid data. If the crews want to trick the system, 747 pilots should all have a standing displacement bid for the 777 Dtw and Dtw 777 pilots should all have a standing displacement preference for Dtw 747.

That scenario would IMO, cause some serious consternation and hand ringing in crew resources.

I hope that was clear.
Heyas scambo, I think life in crew resources will be difficult at best with all of the coming changes over the next 10 years. Maybe they'll need to hire some additional analysts. Consternation!

Could this be bargaining power?
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Heyas scambo, I think life in crew resources will be difficult at best with all of the coming changes over the next 10 years. Maybe they'll need to hire some additional analysts. Consternation!

Could this be bargaining power?
Bargaining power?

Idk. Yet if both those Dtw categories, in their entirety did as I mentioned, I bet they would both be fat staffed a lot longer than if they didn't.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:03 PM
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nevermind, finally got a chance to read the AE memo.

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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:15 PM
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Has anyone received anything in the mail from Met Life regarding our Dental coverage? They took over our dental from Delta Dental first of the year. I never received a new dental insurance card.

I found on Deltanet Employee Self Service a reference to view all of your dental info on metlife.com/mybenefits but when I go there and log in all I see is our company paid life insurance and a section for auto and home. No mention of anything dental.
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