Originally Posted by tim123

So 1 person told you that we are above industry average,and we are suppose to take it for gospel?

Originally Posted by Timbo

You're WRONG!

Beyonce should be the new face of Delta Air Lines!

The 717 doesn't respect art.

Everybody KNOWS she's got more talent than the 717!

Now give her the tablet, just give it to her!

Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy

Ultimately the reoute re-construction is limited by having the correct crew & airplane in position for the follow on rotations. However, I sense a strange and wonderful area of complete agreement with PD. Our reroute rules are nonsense. And "interviewing" me for failing to meet a non-negotiated non contractual productivity standard? ***. I'm bringing a union rep and my personal attorney and probably a lawsuit. OFG

Originally Posted by gloopy

OK hold on Timbo, and Ima let you finish, but



Number of individuals credited on the album (excluding the artist). Beyonce: 74, Morning Phase: 15.
Number of Producers. Beyonce: 16, Morning Phase: 1.
Number of instruments (not vocals) performed by the artist on the album. Beyonce: 0, Morning Phase: 15.

Wasn't even close. Beyonce can sing (and dance…with 18 hours a day of coaching) but she is no where near "best artist". Not even close.

Beyonce is a highly polished, highly managed end product of a BUNCH of other people doing the vast majority of the work for her. Beck is a true artist and does most of the heavy lifting himself.

They actually got this one right.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

While we ***** on here about profit sharing that no one has mentioned giving up at Dalpa and the company has not even hinted they want changed there are real issues ongoing the company does want changed that have huge quality of life implications to the pilot group.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Carl and Jerry only post items that they believe can be manipulated to cast Dalpa in a bad light. They have no interest in anything but hurting Dalpa regardless of the negative impact it has on the pilot group as a whole. They toss things on the wall and hope they stick or spin up the forum while we ignore real threats.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

The company if you read what they put out has made it very clear what they are going to emphasis on the coming contract. It's going to be productivity, productivity and more productivity. The threat in this area most don't even recognize. There are new scheduling programs that will give the company the ability to reschedule the entire operation in real time. One flight cancels for a mechanical and the computer in a matter of seconds spits out a min cost solution that reroutes 57 crews. SD alluded to this in one of his recent memos. Their new found computing power is increasing reroutes and decreasing premium pay. They will in real time be able to optimize the entire operation on a minute by minute basis. Essentially once you sign in for a trip every flight the company has scheduled could be a big pot of open time for the company. The company builds the current rotations to a cost solution that is only accurate until the first flight cancels or is late. The new computer systems will be able to put out a new min cost solution with every change.
The contractual work rules in the contract are all that is keeping the company from going to a active real time scheduling system. As pilots we will not like that. There is a grievance filed that is of huge importance to the pilot group that I don't think has had a single post on this forum. It deals with uncovered flight segments more then 14 hours out. The company agreed that segments known more then 14 hours out will be sent to crew scheduling to be built as open time. They have reneged on that and are sending those segments to the new super premium reroute computer.
This is a huge grievance and of far more importance then the 1 to 2 flights per day the company failed to fly in the AF/KLM JV. I will start to sound hysterical like Jerry always is but this could cost us into 4 digits worth of jobs if the company wins the grievance and can get other seemingly innocuous changes in work rules.
My point in posting this is I suspect the company will throw a lot of dollars in pay charts. The devil will be in the work rules. Imagine departing on every rotation knowing that rotation is being evaluated for change every minute based on the real time status of the operation! Its happening as we speak and multiple crews are being rerouted to keep one flight from going 10 minutes late. Think about a computer that views every credit minute on every rotation as something to be eliminated. It's not pretty.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

We need to have the best people working for us and we all need to pull in the same direction or we will get run over by the tiny details. Carl, Jerry and DPA need to get behind the pilot group and become a asset. not fracture the pilot group.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I didn't keep everything they wrote from almost 3 years ago. Sorry. Since you claim you were on the call, you should have access to the post-call transcripts and notes that were made. You're so intent on proving me to be a liar (as is every DALPA shill), then post the notes of the call. I'll wait.

Carl