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Old 04-04-2015, 08:23 AM
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I disagree. I've done this many times, but only for non revs and only if no other jump sweaters ( online or offline). I make it clear to the agent that if a jumpseater shows up that I will take my original seat or FA JUMPSEAT even. I don't leave the podium until door closing time either to keep them honest.

Are you telling me that you would strand a nonrev by not taking the jump?





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Please do not take the jumpseat anymore when you are positive space. Last minute jumpseaters get screwed all the time. If you have a contractually guaranteed seat in the back, use it. The oversell is not your problem. You are hurting us more than you think. There are airlines out there that require pilots to deadhead in the jumpseat.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:30 AM
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD View Post
I disagree. I've done this many times, but only for non revs and only if no other jump sweaters ( online or offline). I make it clear to the agent that if a jumpseater shows up that I will take my original seat or FA JUMPSEAT even. I don't leave the podium until door closing time either to keep them honest.

Are you telling me that you would strand a nonrev by not taking the jump?
I would never intentionally strand a non-rev. Chances are I will have boarded with zone 1 like I am supposed to and be sitting in my seat so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen, the agent is usually overloaded and working the flight by herself and once she takes your positive space seat away, you are stuck in the jumpseat even if someone shows up. I've also seen pilots give up jumpseats to get a paying pax on even though the agent said it was for a non-rev. This is a perfect example of us voluntarily giving up a negotiated benefit. I have been told by gate agents on last minute scheduled deadheads that the jumpseat is my only option. I refused.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:48 AM
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Jeez, how many more A380's do you want here at Delta? Seems like every time I get on a Delta airplane, it's one of these A380's:





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Old 04-04-2015, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Please do not take the jumpseat anymore when you are positive space. Last minute jumpseaters get screwed all the time. If you have a contractually guaranteed seat in the back, use it. The oversell is not your problem. You are hurting us more than you think. There are airlines out there that require pilots to deadhead in the jumpseat.
Completely agree. Take the seat in the back. On multiple occasions I've had the gate agent remove my seat assignment and say I had to sit in the jumpseat. This is after checking in online or at a kiosk. They are too overloaded and pushed for on-time to worry about jumpseaters.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:45 AM
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No offence mad, but I'd prefer to just have the extra money to buy my own tickets. The positive space tickets issued by the company after the merger are so restrictive on when and how you use them. Only a few available seats on each flight and they book up months in advance. I'd also like the option to fly on other carriers where my full fare ticket is treated as any other full fare paying customer. Employee ps tickets during irops would fall so far down in the priority list.

Just my 2 cents. I'd prefer we focus on compensation and work rule improvements in c2015. No doubt ALPA and management will over inflate the cost associated with any other bonuses.
No offense taken. My only point is that once you retire, in today's envirnment, your pass privileges are virtually worthless.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:47 AM
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I always board last anyway as I don't want to sit in those seats any longer than I have to. I always drag my big bag down and hang out in the gate area. I have never been pressured to give up my seat, I always offer and make it very clear its only for a non rev and only if there are no jumpseaters. I know I would appreciate it if I were non revving with my 6 yr old or 80 year old mom if someone gave up their dhd seat so we could get on. My sons too young to be alone in the back and my mom would need help. I'm a firm believer in karma. Hockey you're too young to be this bitter at the company.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jabwmu View Post
Completely agree. Take the seat in the back. On multiple occasions I've had the gate agent remove my seat assignment and say I had to sit in the jumpseat. This is after checking in online or at a kiosk. They are too overloaded and pushed for on-time to worry about jumpseaters.
I hope you have documented this. There are a couple of things wrong. The first is the agent has no way of knowing on a PS booking if you are a pilot or not so she is risking stranding a non pilot on a ps booking. The second is that agents are not allowed to alter a PS booking other then to upgrade you. Forward the info to the CP's office.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD View Post
I always board last anyway as I don't want to sit in those seats any longer than I have to. I always drag my big bag down and hang out in the gate area. I have never been pressured to give up my seat, I always offer and make it very clear its only for a non rev and only if there are no jumpseaters. I know I would appreciate it if I were non revving with my 6 yr old or 80 year old mom if someone gave up their dhd seat so we could get on. My sons too young to be alone in the back and my mom would need help. I'm a firm believer in karma. Hockey you're too young to be this bitter at the company.
Well said!
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD View Post
I disagree. I've done this many times, but only for non revs and only if no other jump sweaters ( online or offline). I make it clear to the agent that if a jumpseater shows up that I will take my original seat or FA JUMPSEAT even. I don't leave the podium until door closing time either to keep them honest.

Are you telling me that you would strand a nonrev by not taking the jump?
Nerd gets it.

I'm not hurting anyone. And even though I have a guaranteed ride in the back, I see no harm in helping a nonrev get to their destination by me riding up front.
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