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UGBSM 05-04-2015 12:49 PM

Lets just change it to 100 hours of PTO and the "abuse" goes away. Problem solved. Next.

Oh, the company can't afford that? Yes, they can. Not my problem. Next.

Denny Crane 05-04-2015 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1873600)
Lets just change it to 100 hours of PTO and the "abuse" goes away. Problem solved. Next.

Oh, the company can't afford that? Yes, they can. Not my problem. Next.

Before I agree or disagree, what happens to the other 170 hours (for us old guys)? Does it remain verified? Other companies that use PTO have their vacation time built into the PTO...

Denny

HappyToBeHere 05-04-2015 01:11 PM

I would rather ask a dumb question anonymously here than confirm to my mentor and anyone else I am an idiot......

End of sims to IOE (for 7ER at least) is now nearly a month break. And then another 3 to 4 weeks waiting for TOE. I have been told to WS trips between IOE and TOE because even though I have a bid schedule for May, once IOE is done my schedule doesn't matter but I can WS. I have also heard not to WS because the could mess with my TOE scheduling. Lastly I have heard the training pay will stop when I finish IOE.

So my questions 1) if there really is a month break between IOE and TOE does my reserve schedule already assigned just go away because I am not "qualified" to fly it, but I could WS and fly the same trips? 2) Would scheduling WS between IOE and TOE really mess with TOE scheduling or would they just canx the WS? (yes I am former military and do not yet have a full grasp of bidding if I got this wrong) 3) If there is a month break between IOE and TOE and training pay stops at IOE and I don't WS, I not getting paid for a month, right?

I know this is a way jr question for this forum, but it is not new hire or poolie and doesn't deserve its own thread.

firstmob 05-04-2015 01:12 PM

Understand the NBA charter deal will comprise of 11 757's.

sailingfun 05-04-2015 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1873497)
I'm surprised it's 64. I would think anyone over 60. What's the Company going to do? Fire them? Please... The Company got what they wanted. No pension, no leash. Unintended consequences go both ways.

I don't care what you do, you will always have a few abusers. I'm just tired of hearing it from DALPA. The *****ing about it ought to be coming from the Company. This is a case of DALPA doing the Company's job. DALPA's job is to represent us. End of discussion.

Where are you hearing it from DALPA. I have not seen a single thing put out from the union and your hearing it all the time?

sailingfun 05-04-2015 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by HappyToBeHere (Post 1873609)
I would rather ask a dumb question anonymously here than confirm to my mentor and anyone else I am an idiot......

End of sims to IOE (for 7ER at least) is now nearly a month break. And then another 3 to 4 weeks waiting for TOE. I have been told to WS trips between IOE and TOE because even though I have a bid schedule for May, once IOE is done my schedule doesn't matter but I can WS. I have also heard not to WS because the could mess with my TOE scheduling. Lastly I have heard the training pay will stop when I finish IOE.

So my questions 1) if there really is a month break between IOE and TOE does my reserve schedule already assigned just go away because I am not "qualified" to fly it, but I could WS and fly the same trips? 2) Would scheduling WS between IOE and TOE really mess with TOE scheduling or would they just canx the WS? (yes I am former military and do not yet have a full grasp of bidding if I got this wrong) 3) If there is a month break between IOE and TOE and training pay stops at IOE and I don't WS, I not getting paid for a month, right?

I know this is a way jr question for this forum, but it is not new hire or poolie and doesn't deserve its own thread.

Check your PM's

hockeypilot44 05-04-2015 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1873600)
Lets just change it to 100 hours of PTO and the "abuse" goes away. Problem solved. Next.

Oh, the company can't afford that? Yes, they can. Not my problem. Next.

Isn't that what we have now? Sounds cost neutral. I like it. ;)

Purple Drank 05-04-2015 01:51 PM

With manning as bad as it is, can the company even afford to fire guys for sick leave abuse, even if they can prove it? :eek:

scambo1 05-04-2015 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1873639)
With manning as bad as it is, can the company even afford to fire guys for sick leave abuse, even if they can prove it? :eek:

That's a leverage-able position.:cool:

dogismycopilot 05-04-2015 02:01 PM

I would be interested to know how many hours of sick leave go unused every year.


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