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Old 06-14-2015 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tim123
Was told by 2 alpa lec reps that they wanted to put out cons and mec said no.
I'm not sure if I should bill you or the MEC for the hole I just punched in my wall, but this is truly maddening if true.

W T F O?????
Old 06-14-2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
There is nothing in TA that says look back only goes to June 1 2015. It was announced today by MEC comm on FB that the company just decided it. See, they're already budging to sell this stinker .
That's impossible.

Donatelli insisted the TA was the company's last, best offer and there was nothing left at the table.
Old 06-14-2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tim123
Was told by 2 alpa lec reps that they wanted to put out cons and mec said no.
I don't know labor law, just repeating what I was told. JS yesterday was a Delta CA who used to be on a regional MEC. He told us the MEC is forbidden by law from recommending a no vote. They can't trash the agreement.

Like I say, not a labor lawyer.
Old 06-14-2015 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't know labor law, just repeating what I was told. JS yesterday was a Delta CA who used to be on a regional MEC. He told us the MEC is forbidden by law from recommending a no vote. They can't trash the agreement.

Like I say, not a labor lawyer.
Your JS rider was making stuff up. The first admendment applies to reps. We have reps here writing to explain their vote, both pro and con. No one is calling the cops!
Old 06-14-2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble
The ALPA constitution and bylaws are clear: nothing can stop a rep from communicating with his pilots.


Let us take a walk down memory lane, to the time Compass got kicked out of the DL MEC and Moak & Co billed us six figures for "services rendered" over the previous two years even though we'd been operating on a shoestring budget with miniscule amounts of FPL (As JSC, I couldn't even get bought off a 3-day trip to attend the national jumpseat conference). Our pilot coordinator / interim MEC chairman wished to communicate our dire financial situation with the membership at large. He was repeatedly prevented from doing so by ALPA lawyers. We dug our way out of the hole and built up a decent war chest for our first negotiations thanks to the stewardship of our first MEC & particularly the sec-treas - but the membership never did learn the details other than through back channels.

I have no trouble believing LEC reps are being given a gag order.
Old 06-14-2015 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
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I couldn't find it in the contract TA, either. The look back restriction language is supposed to be in an yet to be written, reviewed or seen MOU. This is according to one of my reps. They said it was still being drafted.

Don't trust, you must verify.
Absolutely incredible. This is the kind of answers people will be getting at the road shows. This MEC administration will stop at nothing to get this passed. Nothing.

Carl
Old 06-14-2015 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
If this thing fails, all 4 ATL reps should resign. Shame on them for sending this POS to vote.
+1.

If this thing fails (And I PRAY it does) EVERY rep that voted to send it to a membership vote SHOULD/MUST submit a pro document, explaining why they sent it out to a vote, OR ELSE they should resign.



Petition anyone?
Old 06-14-2015 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
+1.

If this thing fails (And I PRAY it does) EVERY rep that voted to send it to a membership vote SHOULD/MUST submit a pro document, explaining why they sent it out to a vote, OR ELSE they should resign.



Petition anyone?
I believe that is appropriate.
Old 06-14-2015 | 07:47 PM
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Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

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Old 06-14-2015 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

Denny
I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way, to be clear...

Do you really think this will be enough of a push to force a vote?

(I'm not putting in a card, personally)
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