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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way, to be clear...

Do you really think this will be enough of a push to force a vote?

(I'm not putting in a card, personally)
I don't know the answer to that but it sure seems like a lot of new/renewed cards are going in...

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Old 06-15-2015 | 01:24 AM
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Mine is as soon as I can. Let it expire hoping ALPA would change their ways of doing business but alas, they have not.
Old 06-15-2015 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't know labor law, just repeating what I was told. JS yesterday was a Delta CA who used to be on a regional MEC. He told us the MEC is forbidden by law from recommending a no vote. They can't trash the agreement.

Like I say, not a labor lawyer.
Same thing happened to Pinnacle a few years ago with a crap TA1 that was put to the pilots for vote, they (ALPA) tried to sell the crap sandwich to the pilots via roadshows, it also was the company's last, best and final offer. At the roadshows everyone could tell the MEC chairman and a few others were not in favor of the TA, however they couldn't come out and say vote no, but it was pretty obvious they torpedoed the TA and it got voted down by the pilots. Looking back, we should have probably voted yes for that TA, we would made a lot more money and been way better off then waiting 6+ years for a contract.
Old 06-15-2015 | 02:38 AM
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You're comparing apples and marshmallows.
Old 06-15-2015 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Absolutely incredible. This is the kind of answers people will be getting at the road shows. This MEC administration will stop at nothing to get this passed. Nothing.

Carl
And most of the MEC, or they would stop it.
Old 06-15-2015 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus


Let us take a walk down memory lane, to the time Compass got kicked out of the DL MEC and Moak & Co billed us six figures for "services rendered" over the previous two years even though we'd been operating on a shoestring budget with miniscule amounts of FPL (As JSC, I couldn't even get bought off a 3-day trip to attend the national jumpseat conference). Our pilot coordinator / interim MEC chairman wished to communicate our dire financial situation with the membership at large. He was repeatedly prevented from doing so by ALPA lawyers. We dug our way out of the hole and built up a decent war chest for our first negotiations thanks to the stewardship of our first MEC & particularly the sec-treas - but the membership never did learn the details other than through back channels.

I have no trouble believing LEC reps are being given a gag order.
While I certainly believe your story above may have happened ( it sounds credible), your old MEC chair was not LEGALLY prohibited from communicating with his pilots. Sounds to me like he was given, and followed, bad legal advice.
Old 06-15-2015 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

Denny
Yes, yes there will.

And don't call me Shirley.

You know you've wanted to see it, so here it is!


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Old 06-15-2015 | 05:10 AM
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I think I already know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway.

Any way to get off the autobot notification system for inverse assignments? Keep getting these 0300-0400 phone calls. I can turn my cell ringer off but they always call the home phone immediately after which I cannot easily silence. The IAs are impossible to commute to so even if I had the desire I wouldn't have the ability to make it. Plus the ridiculously early phone calls would have interfered with any crew rest I might have had.

The only option I really see is removing my home phone number. I'm not even sure if there is a major negative other than having a good backup for a GS if my cell is inop or I accidentally leave the ringer off.
Old 06-15-2015 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Your time card tells the tale. You'll get pay above guarantee on your X days and your X days paid back.
I think you also get paid above guarantee on the first day of the GS regardless of if it was a reserve day elsewhere. After you start the trip look at your time card in icrew.
Old 06-15-2015 | 06:03 AM
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Default More LCA information PS Its not good

X. The Company will designate rotations that have been awarded to Line Check Pilots that
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contain the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator

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training in the bid period. Following the award of rotations to First Officers that contain

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at least 25% of the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete

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simulator training in the bid period, the Company may withhold from awarding to First

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Officers the remainder of such designated rotations. The projection of OE/TOE block

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hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period will be

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calculated as follows:

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a. 15 block hours for each transitioning narrowbody Captain or First Officer

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b. 25 block hours for each first time narrowbody Captain

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c. 40 block hours for each new hire in a narrowbody category

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d. 50 block hours for each transitioning First Officer from a narrowbody category to a

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widebody category

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e. 60 block hours for each first time Captain transitioning from a narrowbody category

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to a widebody category

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f. 75 block hours for each new hire in widebody category

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This is the contract section pertaining to LCA trip removal. I am concerned the company now has carte blanche to remove any trips they want. Hear me out. The language says the company can remove 75% of the hours. There is no qualifier like the 25 most senior trip are not removed, not a combination of ioe/toe hours nope. The contract as written just establishes a total hours allowed for removal that month. The company than has the ability to pick which hours it removes and which stay. That's it. What is to stop the company from removing all the day trips, two day trips, five day trips and most importantly for you ER guys................
All the international trips. Just imagine for a minute how wonderful your senior schedules can be with 75% of the LCA trips that are removed are all the good international ones.
Good luck

DDM
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