Surprised you think it will fail. I almost fell off my chair when I read this post then looked to see who posted it.

 

Airline fares jump 6% in May
Jun 18 2015, 09:06 ET | By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor
Airline fares rose 5.7% in May on a seasonally adjusted basis, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.The average fare was still down 6.6% from last year on an unadjusted basis after the sector ran off a string of months with decreases.Fares fell 1.3% in April and 1.7% in March.If the bump in fares extends it could alleviate some concerns in the industry over capacity growth.

And we get a nickel of per diem.

How stupid do they think we are?

 

I have consistently stated I do not believe it will ratify since I read the TA.

 

I'm probably part of that silent majority being referred too and I'm a solid NO on this TA. This is no time to accept the onerous conditions of this TA and live under those onerous conditions for my remaining years. I'll just keep what we have, along with profit sharing and coast off into the sunset...

 

Voting No doesn't mean I despise DALPA nor minimize the work the negotiatiors did, nor discount all the things our reps to every day.

It means I find the TA not worthy of a yes vote. I don't have any torches and but one pitchfork, which I use to spread mulch.

 

I talked about the TA with a CA I just flew with. He is a solid 'yes' on this TA and, just as there are guys on the 'no' side who don't accept consenting opinions, I would describe him as not accepting the opinions of those who would vote 'no'...including me.

He thinks the 'no' voters could take Delta the way of NW -- as he is former NW. He says he'd rather have a certain pay raise than the PS anyway. I asked him why not take the raise and leave PS alone? He didn't have an answer. I brought up that the pay raises are nullified to some extent by the PS limits. He disagreed even though the math says otherwise. By not factoring in inflation, he also contends that this IS the richest pilot contract in airline history. He also said that slow & steady are the way to go...and that we'll get even more in 3 years.

He said the FO bidding grievance is bogus because some senior FOs are mad they can't sit at home and get paid for doing nothing.

He actually had a little bit of an issue with the sick leave rules but it wasn't enough to make him vote 'no.'

He basically said, "Sure...vote no. Then watch the company come back with nothing better. In the meantime, we lost months of the pay raise and guys are delaying flights because they are greedy and want more. Customer satisfaction drops. PS goes down. We lose our place at the top. Then someone tries to come buy us or take us over. It happened at Northwest. I've seen this all before. All because some guys wanted too much too soon. So go ahead and vote the way you feel."

Needless to say, it was a little awkward. I did try to lighten the mood by saying that the PS would be going down anyway with a 'yes' vote so no big deal there. I don't think he got the joke.

Not too many guys posting support for this TA but I have no doubt there are a good percentage of folks who agree with this CA.

 

Spread the word. I don't own it, but I like it.

www.tafacts.com

 

Thanks for that. I just printed a copy to show the guys I'll fly with between now and the vote.

 

My prediction... We will soon announce a financing deal to bring Skymark airlines out of bankruptcy that will fix our Haneda access problem.

 

Does that (bolded) apply to MD as well? e.g. Does his impatience, yelling, and threatening doom if others have a difference of opinion define him?