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Old 06-20-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
What is Nestor's excuse for selling out the FOs he represents?

I keep expecting him to send an email at least saying why he voted yes for a contract that will hurt the pilots he represents.
He said that our revenue per seat is down and he thinks our positioning is softening. He said something along the lines of he expects the company's profit to peak this year, then start falling as carriers add capacity. Thinks if we vote this down, next deal will be worse. He wrote it in a much more professional way, but that is what I took from his email to me off the top of my head.
Old 06-20-2015 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I donated to DPA after all 4 of my reps voted for this TA. Now all 4 of my reps are in the crew room promoting it and telling us how great it is. The reps are literally in the crew room telling the pilots that they represent that we are sick leave abusers and that the union is trying to change that. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
I was told I must be personally wealthy to not give in and vote yes for this ta. My rep was borderline incredulous I wasn't voting yes. I didn't support a recall of reps but now I do. How can my rep not understand why people are so outraged.
Old 06-20-2015 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
He said that our revenue per seat is down and he thinks our positioning is softening. He said something along the lines of he expects the company's profit to peak this year, then start falling as carriers add capacity. Thinks if we vote this down, next deal will be worse. He wrote it in a much more professional way, but that is what I took from his email to me off the top of my head.
Ok thanks. For some reason I didn't get his email. At least it's better than the pilots need a chance to vote on it copout.
Old 06-20-2015 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
What is Nestor's excuse for selling out the FOs he represents?

I keep expecting him to send an email at least saying why he voted yes for a contract that will hurt the pilots he represents.
This guy is a true disappointment. Tell us how he is for the pilots, but actions speak louder than words. I believe he is for promoting himself with the insiders hoping to jump on a long career as an ALPA insider. When it matters, he votes how he is told. Disgusting.
Old 06-20-2015 | 06:58 AM
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So ATL and NYC 7ERB could use some help. Still 5 trips in open time for today in ATL, 20 in NYC for tomorrow.

Will all of you lazy LCA bidding FOs get to work?
They would but they're all out sick
Old 06-20-2015 | 06:59 AM
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Who is Nestor? I didn't seen an email from him, yet........
Old 06-20-2015 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
Who is Nestor? I didn't seen an email from him, yet........
Former prolific poster and scope hound on here who was elected as an ATL FO LEC rep post-C2012 on a campaign of change - supported by many posters here - who was then promptly assimilated into the borg. Was pressured into voting for Kingsley Roberts' recall & has marched in lockstep with Harwood et al ever since.
Old 06-20-2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
Who is Nestor? I didn't seen an email from him, yet........
ATL FO rep. He got elected because he said he was going to try and change ALPA. He said he believed in a bottom up organization. So far he has been a puppet for the CVG mafia.
Old 06-20-2015 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ilinipilot
I was told I must be personally wealthy to not give in and vote yes for this ta. My rep was borderline incredulous I wasn't voting yes. I didn't support a recall of reps but now I do. How can my rep not understand why people are so outraged.
Wow. This is why I've always said that we as a group need to live below our means at all times. Living paycheck to paycheck, especially at 6 figures+ income level, makes someone extremely dependant and unable to walk away from anything, which only weakens our collective position and costs us all money in the long run.

This TA is more money for most of us (unless you get an unverifiable illness in your rolling window that you have to verify, then it could end up being a 100% pay cut) but it comes with some harsh concessions that are completely unwarranted at this time.

I'm also not pie in the sky bullish about the economy and am well aware of the capacity on the way from ME3, LCC's and others, even as legacies try to scrap to gether a percent or two of recently abandoned capacity back in. The dollar and debt bubbles are real and significant, and there are some downright shocking soverign debt land mines out there that we're simply going to be walking over. No way around it.

So maybe profits have peaked. They don't always go up; they can't always go up. But so what. In every scenario short of armageddon we are still going to be profitable. More profitable than the C2K days, and more profitable than the C2012 days. If our profits are cut in half we will still exceed the previously most profitable times in our history by a wide margin. So smooth sailing ahead or a rough ride, there is still absolutely no need for these levels of concessions.

Oh and if the company or the union is even remotely concerned about sustainability, where is the outrage on the ridiculous 5B additional buybacks? If we ever are in another position of dire economic headwinds, which we will be at some point anyway knowing this industry, we will look back at these wasteful do nothing buybacks as our Waterloo. The amount was not only radically excessive, but it was done out of emotion and very very short term and short sighted greed without any regard whatsoever to the economics this industry operates in. It was burned right in front of us just so we couldn't have a small portion of it. Where's the roadshow slides on that?
Old 06-20-2015 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Where do you commute to/from? How many Delta flights are there on that leg? How many 'other' carriers, or DCC flights on that leg?

I'm lucky in that I commute from MCO-ATL, because there are hourly Delta Mainline 757's (soon to be replaced by 737's) on that leg.

I book my 1st choice jumpseat, with two back up flights the 3rd will still get me to ATL an hour prior to sign in.

I typically get to ATL 4 hours prior to sign in, unless something happened to my primary jumpseat flight, which has happened a few times due to a weather divert and one time due to MX in MCO.

On the MX cnx flight, I called Crew Scheds and told them what was going on, they got me a pos space seat on my 3rd flight, which was oversold.

On the wx divert, we sat on the ground in Macon for 5 hours waiting for fuel and AWABS to get from there to ATL. I called crew scheds 3 times from MCN to update them on my progress. I told them there was a good chance I wouldn't make sign in, they said, "Well, just get here as soon as you can, we will hold your flight to Dubai for you."

As it worked out, I made it to ATL 30 minutes after sign in and went straight to the gate, looked at the other 3 pilots, asked, "Is everything done yet? I'll be flying this leg, so get out of my seat."
I'll be commuting from LIT for a while and then probably AUS. 5-7 bunch of mainline stuff to both and aus has some oal. I think it should be doable. Thank you for the insight on your commute. Sounds like you have it wired.
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