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OK all you reserve bidding, sharp shooting guru's, I need some help for November. I have two weeks of vacation Nov 15-28. I also have a carry in trip that arrives Nov 3 with a 17:54 carry in.
That leaves me with only 13 days to stuff trips into; 4-14 and 29, 30.
Looking at the trips in the bid package, there is almost no way for me to get a regular line, due to the fact that almost all our trips are worth 28-38 hours, and the FAR117 100 hours in 28 days thing.
I will have 60 hours block time in the last two weeks of October, I need 47:06 in the first two weeks of November just to get into the ALV window, obviously that's 7:06 too much block in 28 days (and it's a stupid rule for ULR flying!).
I'm thinking PBS might force me onto reserve, OR, maybe I WANT to bid reserve, they could only use me for 1 scheduled trip in the first two weeks of Nov, unless they come up with a broken up trip that will 'fit' FAR wise, and then I'm off.
SO...my question to you smart F/O's who always know the way to sharp shoot this situation for financial rewards...how many X days would I get with 3 days of carry in, and two weeks of vacation? And what would the 'financial reward' be, if I were to bid reserve?
I haven't been on reserve in about 8 years and I commute, so I try to avoid it, but in a month with 2 weeks of vacation, it might work?
Thanks in advance!
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That leaves me with only 13 days to stuff trips into; 4-14 and 29, 30.
Looking at the trips in the bid package, there is almost no way for me to get a regular line, due to the fact that almost all our trips are worth 28-38 hours, and the FAR117 100 hours in 28 days thing.
I will have 60 hours block time in the last two weeks of October, I need 47:06 in the first two weeks of November just to get into the ALV window, obviously that's 7:06 too much block in 28 days (and it's a stupid rule for ULR flying!).
I'm thinking PBS might force me onto reserve, OR, maybe I WANT to bid reserve, they could only use me for 1 scheduled trip in the first two weeks of Nov, unless they come up with a broken up trip that will 'fit' FAR wise, and then I'm off.
SO...my question to you smart F/O's who always know the way to sharp shoot this situation for financial rewards...how many X days would I get with 3 days of carry in, and two weeks of vacation? And what would the 'financial reward' be, if I were to bid reserve?
I haven't been on reserve in about 8 years and I commute, so I try to avoid it, but in a month with 2 weeks of vacation, it might work?
Thanks in advance!
(You can send me a pm if it's top secret info.)
So 7 days of reserve.
Which is a month off right?
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I'm sure they'll put me on short call at least 3 days...so I may need to crash at your place...


I'm thinking I bid to put all my on call days right up against the carry in trip, then it'll be even harder for them to use me, then put 4 X days (and put in for a GS), 2 weeks vacation, and 2 X days on 29/30?
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Thanks FTB...and what's a reserve line worth when our ALV is 72, with 3 days of carry in and 2 weeks of vacation? Do vacation days add time to the 72?
I'm sure they'll put me on short call at least 3 days...so I may need to crash at your place...

I'm thinking I bid to put all my on call days right up against the carry in trip, then it'll be even harder for them to use me, then put 4 X days (and put in for a GS), 2 weeks vacation, and 2 X days on 29/30?
I'm sure they'll put me on short call at least 3 days...so I may need to crash at your place...


I'm thinking I bid to put all my on call days right up against the carry in trip, then it'll be even harder for them to use me, then put 4 X days (and put in for a GS), 2 weeks vacation, and 2 X days on 29/30?

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For those on reserve with vacation, training, or carry-in trips: On the PBS information screen (once logged on, with all the ALV/high/low/extra x-day info) is a "PBS Reserve Pay Excel Spreadsheet." It's available on both the web and desktop version of PBS.
Once logged on, scroll down below the category information down to PBS Resources. You'll find it under Calculators.
CliffsNotes (formerly Cliffs Notes, originally Cliff's Notes and often, erroneously, CliffNotes) instructions: Select month, fill in ALV and extra X-day (if applicable), fill in the boxes with training/vacation, carry-in value (under 'other') and voila - you have your pay.
Easy (Thank you JB for this and so many other awesome tools)
Once logged on, scroll down below the category information down to PBS Resources. You'll find it under Calculators.
CliffsNotes (formerly Cliffs Notes, originally Cliff's Notes and often, erroneously, CliffNotes) instructions: Select month, fill in ALV and extra X-day (if applicable), fill in the boxes with training/vacation, carry-in value (under 'other') and voila - you have your pay.
Easy (Thank you JB for this and so many other awesome tools)
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For those on reserve with vacation, training, or carry-in trips: On the PBS information screen (once logged on, with all the ALV/high/low/extra x-day info) is a "PBS Reserve Pay Excel Spreadsheet." It's available on both the web and desktop version of PBS.
Once logged on, scroll down below the category information down to PBS Resources. You'll find it under Calculators.
CliffsNotes (formerly Cliffs Notes, originally Cliff's Notes and often, erroneously, CliffNotes) instructions: Select month, fill in ALV and extra X-day (if applicable), fill in the boxes with training/vacation, carry-in value (under 'other') and voila - you have your pay.
Easy (Thank you JB for this and so many other awesome tools)
Once logged on, scroll down below the category information down to PBS Resources. You'll find it under Calculators.
CliffsNotes (formerly Cliffs Notes, originally Cliff's Notes and often, erroneously, CliffNotes) instructions: Select month, fill in ALV and extra X-day (if applicable), fill in the boxes with training/vacation, carry-in value (under 'other') and voila - you have your pay.
Easy (Thank you JB for this and so many other awesome tools)
Is there a max number of work days in a training month? With training and IOE/TOE my schedule has 24 workdays. 15 are training days and 9 are flying. It is worth 100 hours, which is well above the LCW.
Certainly with the known fleet plans Delta will be able to reduce our number of departures to Europe using EASK. During that time we will replace most of our 218 seat 767's with 287 seat A330's and some 320 seat A350's. If the 777 rumor turns into reality we may see more of those in the transatlantic market.
The situation with AF/KLM is fluid because they are in deep trouble. Their current plans are to downsize aircraft size however they may now cancel the 787 order. They are however in deep trouble. I hope RA has a plan B for European feed in the event it all collapses.
The situation with AF/KLM is fluid because they are in deep trouble. Their current plans are to downsize aircraft size however they may now cancel the 787 order. They are however in deep trouble. I hope RA has a plan B for European feed in the event it all collapses.
There is plenty of European feed, but keep pretending to solve company level problems and spreading FUD rather than engaging in trade unionism with your fellow pilots. It's been going over swimmingly for you here.
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