Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-29-2015, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
BUT...have you heard about the newest non-rev killer:
SDSB?
That is the new HK, the 'Same Day Stand By' ticket holder.
They are the ones who buy the cheapest fare, on the latest (cheapest) flight, but show up early to the airport and Stand By for an earlier flight, the one you thought was Wide Open. They get on right after all the HK's, and ahead of YOU!
SDSB?
That is the new HK, the 'Same Day Stand By' ticket holder.
They are the ones who buy the cheapest fare, on the latest (cheapest) flight, but show up early to the airport and Stand By for an earlier flight, the one you thought was Wide Open. They get on right after all the HK's, and ahead of YOU!
10-29-2015, 06:31 AM
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Reserve month to line holder guys beware! Had five reserve days at end of month followed by line holder the next month starting with three days off. I flew a four day on reserve leaving one reserve day at end of month. I thought I was golden. Checked my schedule after 4 day and they gave me another four day eating my 3 days off at the beginning of my line holder month. I called laughing saying you must be mistaken you took me into my days off as a line holder and thats 12 days on. Haha. Take it off.
They said haha you're doing it.
We can take all your days off and you have a 31 hour overnight in the middle so you can be gone all 12 days.
They said haha you're doing it.
We can take all your days off and you have a 31 hour overnight in the middle so you can be gone all 12 days.
10-29-2015, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
BUT...have you heard about the newest non-rev killer:
SDSB?
That is the new HK, the 'Same Day Stand By' ticket holder.
They are the ones who buy the cheapest fare, on the latest (cheapest) flight, but show up early to the airport and Stand By for an earlier flight, the one you thought was Wide Open. They get on right after all the HK's, and ahead of YOU!
SDSB?
That is the new HK, the 'Same Day Stand By' ticket holder.
They are the ones who buy the cheapest fare, on the latest (cheapest) flight, but show up early to the airport and Stand By for an earlier flight, the one you thought was Wide Open. They get on right after all the HK's, and ahead of YOU!
Thx
10-29-2015, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Reserve month to line holder guys beware! Had five reserve days at end of month followed by line holder the next month starting with three days off. I flew a four day on reserve leaving one reserve day at end of month. I thought I was golden. Checked my schedule after 4 day and they gave me another four day eating my 3 days off at the beginning of my line holder month. I called laughing saying you must be mistaken you took me into my days off as a line holder and thats 12 days on. Haha. Take it off.
They said haha you're doing it.
We can take all your days off and you have a 31 hour overnight in the middle so you can be gone all 12 days.
They said haha you're doing it.
We can take all your days off and you have a 31 hour overnight in the middle so you can be gone all 12 days.
10-29-2015, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Genzie
What's an "HK" ?
Thx
Thx
If you are trying to non-rev they are "Hope-Killers."
Actually they are passengers who purchased a discounted ticket which does not allow them to select a seat. Since they purchased a ticket they are obviously ahead of all non-revs.
I have heard that they are included in the Travelnet numbers but the problem is they seem to magically appear out of nowhere as you get closer to your flight - Thus the Hope -Killer.
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10-29-2015, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
If you are trying to non-rev they are "Hope-Killers."
Actually they are passengers who purchased a discounted ticket which does not allow them to select a seat. Since they purchased a ticket they are obviously ahead of all non-revs.
I have heard that they are included in the Travelnet numbers but the problem is they seem to magically appear out of nowhere as you get closer to your flight - Thus the Hope -Killer.
Scoop
Actually they are passengers who purchased a discounted ticket which does not allow them to select a seat. Since they purchased a ticket they are obviously ahead of all non-revs.
I have heard that they are included in the Travelnet numbers but the problem is they seem to magically appear out of nowhere as you get closer to your flight - Thus the Hope -Killer.
Scoop
For instance, at least one Delta Connection carrier does not book deadhead seats until 9PM central time the night before the flight, even if the trip had a deadhead in it the whole time since the bid award came out weeks prior. 0/-3 suddenly becomes 0/-7, at 10PM for a 7AM flight.
10-29-2015, 09:51 AM
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Just curious about something contractually and in actual practice, when do the monthly bid pacakges come, bid open, close, and awards published? Eg, 10th, 12th, 17th, and 19th?
10-29-2015, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just curious about something contractually and in actual practice, when do the monthly bid pacakges come, bid open, close, and awards published? Eg, 10th, 12th, 17th, and 19th?
Omar
10-29-2015, 10:37 AM
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A training question that's a bit off topic for those more knowledgable than myself (not hard to do):
I'm one of the select few SEA 73 folks required to do JNU training in early December.
There are 6 bid options for us, but I have a carryover trip that covers 2 of the "training rotations."
How should I handle this? My trip goes 30Nov-3Dec, but if I am awarded training 1Dec-4Dec, what happens?
I can't seem to find much on this. Thanks in advance.
I'm one of the select few SEA 73 folks required to do JNU training in early December.
There are 6 bid options for us, but I have a carryover trip that covers 2 of the "training rotations."
How should I handle this? My trip goes 30Nov-3Dec, but if I am awarded training 1Dec-4Dec, what happens?
I can't seem to find much on this. Thanks in advance.
10-29-2015, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BigLebowski
A training question that's a bit off topic for those more knowledgable than myself (not hard to do):
I'm one of the select few SEA 73 folks required to do JNU training in early December.
There are 6 bid options for us, but I have a carryover trip that covers 2 of the "training rotations."
How should I handle this? My trip goes 30Nov-3Dec, but if I am awarded training 1Dec-4Dec, what happens?
I can't seem to find much on this. Thanks in advance.
I'm one of the select few SEA 73 folks required to do JNU training in early December.
There are 6 bid options for us, but I have a carryover trip that covers 2 of the "training rotations."
How should I handle this? My trip goes 30Nov-3Dec, but if I am awarded training 1Dec-4Dec, what happens?
I can't seem to find much on this. Thanks in advance.
Normally PBS would not allow 1-4 training with a carry-in trip. But since your whole category has to get qualified ASAP I am not 100% sure about your situation.
I would say you are probably not going to get 1-4 training, but who knows? Maybe the scheduling Gods will smile down upon you and your trip will drop.
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