Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-20-2016, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
72 Hours to drop via moving an X day and 0700 PCS the day prior to straight drop a reserve day.
See below from the scheduling reference handbook.
Scoop
X Day Move Rules
X days may be moved, at pilot request, via PCS under leave requests, provided:
the X day(s) to be moved are:
o an entire X-day block,
o the first or last day of an X-day block, or
o a series of contiguous X days that includes the first or last day of an X-day block, and
reserve availability in the category is sufficient, and
movement of the X day(s) does not cause an FAR violation, and
X day(s) are not moved into or out of a scheduled vacation, and
X day(s) are not moved into or out of the last six days of the current bid period during the PBS bid award process for the subsequent bid period, and
the X day(s) to be moved begin at least 72 hours after the award date of the move, and
X day(s) are moved to be contiguous with:
o another X-day block,
o a training day,
o a vacation day,
o a PD/APD day, or
o a day of legal duty.
See below from the scheduling reference handbook.
Scoop
X Day Move Rules
X days may be moved, at pilot request, via PCS under leave requests, provided:
the X day(s) to be moved are:
o an entire X-day block,
o the first or last day of an X-day block, or
o a series of contiguous X days that includes the first or last day of an X-day block, and
reserve availability in the category is sufficient, and
movement of the X day(s) does not cause an FAR violation, and
X day(s) are not moved into or out of a scheduled vacation, and
X day(s) are not moved into or out of the last six days of the current bid period during the PBS bid award process for the subsequent bid period, and
the X day(s) to be moved begin at least 72 hours after the award date of the move, and
X day(s) are moved to be contiguous with:
o another X-day block,
o a training day,
o a vacation day,
o a PD/APD day, or
o a day of legal duty.
01-20-2016, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
IMHO they are debating about how much to backfill. Backfill is really the only variable once an AE or released. They never have to award the number of posted vacancies.
01-20-2016, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
I am making that assumption, yes; I don't see why it would be any different (i.e., you're unqualified until the LCA puts "OK" on your schedule, so you can't put more flying on there until you're qualified).
I thnk we have crossed paths before on the employee shuttle bus at MCI...still commuting from there? I am out west now...
01-20-2016, 08:34 PM
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01-20-2016, 08:34 PM
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01-21-2016, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
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01-21-2016, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 135TOAD
I normally don't bid a reserve line but I bid reserve for Feb. I put my request in for known mil leave per the FOM & now I'm unable to move X days over the mloa days because it's a known absence. Any idea when this changed?
01-21-2016, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
That should not be the case. Call the scheds.
01-21-2016, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by S3toHerk
Are you sure? I'd call the ALPA scheduling committee and ask them first. Schedules could be busy and depending on who answers not very patient. Besides, scheduler are not contract experts.
If you put in your MLOA prior to the month starting, they prorate your month accordingly (and give you fewer X days and less guarantee). So, if you move your X day to a MLOA day, you are actually volunteering to be on duty more days for the same (lesser) pay.
If, on the other hand, you are awarded your schedule first, then put in your mil leave, you have a full reserve guarantee from which to move X days. So, when you move your X days to a day you plan to take mil leave, you are just saying "I want to work a full schedule for Delta and work for the mil on my day off." Then when you drop mil leave on top of your X day, they will make it a mil X day and it will basically be the same as a golden X day because they cannot hold you over into a mil leave X day.
So, you have to decide when you bid reserve whether you want to be paid a full month at Delta or if you want to work a pro-rated month. If you want full pay, bid first then drop mil on X days. Otherwise, you will get less work days and a lower guarantee.
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.
01-21-2016, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by milky
If I'm not mistaken, this is correct.
If you put in your MLOA prior to the month starting, they prorate your month accordingly (and give you fewer X days and less guarantee). So, if you move your X day to a MLOA day, you are actually volunteering to be on duty more days for the same (lesser) pay.
If, on the other hand, you are awarded your schedule first, then put in your mil leave, you have a full reserve guarantee from which to move X days. So, when you move your X days to a day you plan to take mil leave, you are just saying "I want to work a full schedule for Delta and work for the mil on my day off." Then when you drop mil leave on top of your X day, they will make it a mil X day and it will basically be the same as a golden X day because they cannot hold you over into a mil leave X day.
So, you have to decide when you bid reserve whether you want to be paid a full month at Delta or if you want to work a pro-rated month. If you want full pay, bid first then drop mil on X days. Otherwise, you will get less work days and a lower guarantee.
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.
If you put in your MLOA prior to the month starting, they prorate your month accordingly (and give you fewer X days and less guarantee). So, if you move your X day to a MLOA day, you are actually volunteering to be on duty more days for the same (lesser) pay.
If, on the other hand, you are awarded your schedule first, then put in your mil leave, you have a full reserve guarantee from which to move X days. So, when you move your X days to a day you plan to take mil leave, you are just saying "I want to work a full schedule for Delta and work for the mil on my day off." Then when you drop mil leave on top of your X day, they will make it a mil X day and it will basically be the same as a golden X day because they cannot hold you over into a mil leave X day.
So, you have to decide when you bid reserve whether you want to be paid a full month at Delta or if you want to work a pro-rated month. If you want full pay, bid first then drop mil on X days. Otherwise, you will get less work days and a lower guarantee.
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.
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