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Happy Thanksgiving all! But to Whom are we thankful to?? Just ask George Washington in his Proclamation of 1789!
Happy Thanksgiving all! But to Whom are we thankful to?? Just ask George Washington in his Proclamation of 1789!
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Johno29,
There are many of us who have NEVER called in sick, who pick up flying and who don't fight the system (even when the system makes an error). Those of us who can be at the jet 45 minutes after the phone call and willing to push back 15 minutes later if everything is done. Management might not be able to put a dollar value on that, but it certainly exists.
With a forced commute that will change. Statistically, I would think it takes more unhappy pilots to staff an airline than it does happy ones. The example of all the short staffing and junior manning that goes on at United and US Air during furloughs.
Then there are some of us that will simply quit if there is a better opportunity out there. ACL65 said they expected with all this upheaval that some would do just that. Management will do their best to minimize that upheaval, but at the end of the day they have a business to run.
There are many of us who have NEVER called in sick, who pick up flying and who don't fight the system (even when the system makes an error). Those of us who can be at the jet 45 minutes after the phone call and willing to push back 15 minutes later if everything is done. Management might not be able to put a dollar value on that, but it certainly exists.
With a forced commute that will change. Statistically, I would think it takes more unhappy pilots to staff an airline than it does happy ones. The example of all the short staffing and junior manning that goes on at United and US Air during furloughs.
Then there are some of us that will simply quit if there is a better opportunity out there. ACL65 said they expected with all this upheaval that some would do just that. Management will do their best to minimize that upheaval, but at the end of the day they have a business to run.
Why is this directed at me? Did I say something??
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I find it hard to believe that management wanted the APA system. Why tie there own hands. They can make the AE system function exactly the same as the APA system if they so desire. They can post a montly bid and convert in 120 days. Why ask for something you already have?
In reality they have consistantly asked for and sadly been granted longer and longer conversion periods. That is how they now have the one bid per year they can extend to a entire year. They fought hard for that. Your saying they asked to give it up?
In reality they have consistantly asked for and sadly been granted longer and longer conversion periods. That is how they now have the one bid per year they can extend to a entire year. They fought hard for that. Your saying they asked to give it up?
IMO it's because marketing was always the tail wagging the dog at fNWA but thats just my opinion.
Going to a monthly system gave them much more flexibility for short term staffing changes and also gave them a better tool to gauge how much training would be required, because with a monthly APA most pilots kept their preference cards reasonably current.
I have to quit posting now and fly to Narita, assuming I can figure out what the new check-in procedure is ...
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The automated system they use when they get behind and need people now is a blast calling system. I believe it does show a caller ID.
Phone calls from supervisors ect.. will usually show up as Delta Air Lines if direct dialed. That is why sometimes you get a caller ID and other times you don't.
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Every time I've been called by scheduling (that's alot) on either my home or cell it comes up Delta Air Lines (home caller id) or scheduling (cell caller id) . Maybe it has something to do with my numbers being ATL based as are Delta's.
Johno29,
There are many of us who have NEVER called in sick, who pick up flying and who don't fight the system (even when the system makes an error). Those of us who can be at the jet 45 minutes after the phone call and willing to push back 15 minutes later if everything is done. Management might not be able to put a dollar value on that, but it certainly exists.
Do you want a Gold Star
Whenever I hear "I've never called in sick" I think that means someone has been to work when they probably shouldn't have. Many of us on reserve live longer than 45 min from the airport, still have a bag packed, and live a life on reserve and take a full 2 hrs to get to check-in with an honest best effort. Are we less dedicated and professional pilots?
With a forced commute that will change. Statistically, I would think it takes more unhappy pilots to staff an airline than it does happy ones.
That could change with better commuter policies like call-in honest, a wider JS window, and the ability to double book JS and NR on the same flight
The example of all the short staffing and junior manning that goes on at United and US Air during furloughs.
Then there are some of us that will simply quit if there is a better opportunity out there.
If you think there is a better opportunity than DAL go for it, but please be senior to me
ACL65 said they expected with all this upheaval that some would do just that. Management will do their best to minimize that upheaval, but at the end of the day they have a business to run.
There are many of us who have NEVER called in sick, who pick up flying and who don't fight the system (even when the system makes an error). Those of us who can be at the jet 45 minutes after the phone call and willing to push back 15 minutes later if everything is done. Management might not be able to put a dollar value on that, but it certainly exists.
Do you want a Gold Star
Whenever I hear "I've never called in sick" I think that means someone has been to work when they probably shouldn't have. Many of us on reserve live longer than 45 min from the airport, still have a bag packed, and live a life on reserve and take a full 2 hrs to get to check-in with an honest best effort. Are we less dedicated and professional pilots?With a forced commute that will change. Statistically, I would think it takes more unhappy pilots to staff an airline than it does happy ones.
That could change with better commuter policies like call-in honest, a wider JS window, and the ability to double book JS and NR on the same flight
The example of all the short staffing and junior manning that goes on at United and US Air during furloughs.
Then there are some of us that will simply quit if there is a better opportunity out there.
If you think there is a better opportunity than DAL go for it, but please be senior to me

ACL65 said they expected with all this upheaval that some would do just that. Management will do their best to minimize that upheaval, but at the end of the day they have a business to run.
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