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05-30-2017 | 06:14 AM

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Sparty

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO

Where in the contract does it say vacation and green slips are pay, no credit? Are training days pay no credit too?

Not sure, but I had 90 hours last month, 12 of which were from CQ (pay no credit), and I wasn't allowed to put anything into my bank.

05-30-2017 | 07:07 AM

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Not sure, but I had 90 hours last month, 12 of which were from CQ (pay no credit), and I wasn't allowed to put anything into my bank.

I have 84 hours this month including 17:30 from vacation and can't put anything in the bank.

05-30-2017 | 07:16 AM

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dragon

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO

Where in the contract does it say vacation and green slips are pay, no credit? Are training days pay no credit too?

Section 23 Q discusses GS and GSWC, but the section you're looking for is 23 U. Green Slip (GS), Green Slip with Conflict (GSWC), Inverse Assignment (IA) and Inverse Assignment With Conflict (IAWC)—Pay and Credit/Pay and No Credit

Hope this helps.

05-30-2017 | 10:02 AM

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FL370esq

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO

Where in the contract does it say vacation and green slips are pay, no credit? Are training days pay no credit too?

GS: 23.U.1.a.2 - double pay, no credit

Vacation: 23.Y.1.a - 3:30/day pay, no credit

CQ: 23.Y.1.b - 4:00/day pay, no credit

However, vacation and CQ do give you "pseudo" credit for purposes of reaching the Green Slip trigger, just not for purposes of deposit into your full-service bank.

05-30-2017 | 03:48 PM

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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

05-31-2017 | 01:49 PM

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Does anyone have a ALPA number we can call if we think a GS went unfairly to a junior person?

Also after block in how many minutes is it until we are considered off duty?

05-31-2017 | 01:52 PM

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Han Solo

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does anyone have a alpa number we can call if we think a gs went unfairly to a junior person?

1-800-usa-alpa

05-31-2017 | 02:39 PM

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Also after block in how many minutes is it until we are considered off duty?

For FAR FDP consideration, you are off duty (FDP ends) at block-in. However, for rest, add 30 minutes from block-in to start your 10 hour (minimum) rest requirement.

05-31-2017 | 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver

Does anyone have a ALPA number we can call if we think a GS went unfairly to a junior person?

Also after block in how many minutes is it until we are considered off duty?

One thing that I now do proactively is run prospective trips through the rules auditor to see if I am legal for trips that I might be interested in.

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