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Old 09-17-2017 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Contract reference is 22.E.6

If your training (not including OE) is on or before the 16th of the month, then you convert that month. If your training is after the 16th you convert the following month.
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Conersions start the first of the month then. Basically I'm starting after the 16th of September, officially me new position/rate would start October 1sr.
Old 09-17-2017 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
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Conersions start the first of the month then. Basically I'm starting after the 16th of September, officially me new position/rate would start October 1sr.
It's not when you start, it's when you are scheduled to finish. Can't remember the specific sims, but it's your scheduled LOE sim check ride date. On or before the 16th and you convert that month, after the 16th then wait another month for the new pay rate.
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
It's not when you start, it's when you are scheduled to finish. Can't remember the specific sims, but it's your scheduled LOE sim check ride date. On or before the 16th and you convert that month, after the 16th then wait another month for the new pay rate.
So I guess scheduled to finish on the 17th of October would keep me at my existing rate for the October pay cycle.

November pay cycle would start me at my new pay rate (converted prior to 16th November).

I appreciate the help/advice.
Old 09-17-2017 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
So I guess scheduled to finish on the 17th of October...
I'm sure that wasn't done on purpose
Old 09-17-2017 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
I'm sure that wasn't done on purpose
Yeah I know right....at least I'll have something to complain about for the next few years.
Old 09-18-2017 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Thanks!

Conersions start the first of the month then. Basically I'm starting after the 16th of September, officially me new position/rate would start October 1sr.
There is a conversion list on the deltnet in the crew resources section.
Old 09-18-2017 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
So I guess scheduled to finish on the 17th of October would keep me at my existing rate for the October pay cycle.

November pay cycle would start me at my new pay rate (converted prior to 16th November).

I appreciate the help/advice.
Keep in mind that your IOE which should be in Oct will be paid at the rate of the equipment you fly it on.
Old 09-18-2017 | 04:53 AM
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Reserve question

YSed a trip. Didn't get it. Went to a senior guy who didn't want it. We are in same days available group, but I'm in a lower bucket because I've flown more. Scheduling insists they have to exhaust all the bucket 1 guys before my YS gets looked at.

Looking at PWA has me crosseyed. Are they correct?
Old 09-18-2017 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
Reserve question

YSed a trip. Didn't get it. Went to a senior guy who didn't want it. We are in same days available group, but I'm in a lower bucket because I've flown more. Scheduling insists they have to exhaust all the bucket 1 guys before my YS gets looked at.

Looking at PWA has me crosseyed. Are they correct?
The coverage buckets are not part of the coverage sequence in the PWA.

23. N. or O. depending on the time frame only discusses RUO which is reserve usage order. Of which, I still have been unable to obtain a written copy. There seems to be a lot of company discretion.


“Reserve utilization order” (RUO) means an order of assigning open time to reserve
pilots, within days-of-availability groupings, that is based upon a comparison of their
RAW value groupings.

SRH page 64 is really the only help.

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Old 09-18-2017 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
No the coverage buckets are not part of the coverage sequence.

23. N. or O. depending on the time frame.
pretty sure he's correct. If you are in bucket 2 and YS a trip, and there is someone in bucket 1, the bucket 1 person will get the trip.

the MEC has looked at changing that but no results.
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