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Old 05-14-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
I think you would keep your vacation even if you didn't select it on the AE bid. That selection is choosing to forgo pay protection by allowing pilots junior to you going to the same category to train ahead of you in order for you to avoid training over your vacation. Only switching bases requires no training, so the conflict could never exist.

7 C.7.a. just says you will retain the vacation
7 C.7.b.2. is the reference for choosing to retain a vacation on an AE bid when training is required
Yup....you are correct, thanks for clarifying. On your AE preference, you elect to (or not) retain vacation in lieu of qualification training thereby waiving any pay protection if a junior pilot is trained and converted before you because your qual training was pushed later in order to honor your vacation.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
Yup....you are correct, thanks for clarifying. On your AE preference, you elect to (or not) retain vacation in lieu of qualification training thereby waiving any pay protection if a junior pilot is trained and converted before you because your qual training was pushed later in order to honor your vacation.
Unless the company decides to not honor the "retain vacation" request.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:37 PM
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Unless the company decides to not honor the "retain vacation" request.
They would never do that! We are a people-oriented company afterall. 🤣
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:58 PM
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Thanks all for the information!
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait View Post
Base transfer only, say NYC to ATL, no change to category. Would one retain their previously assigned vacation dates?
Yes. Ops tested.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:38 AM
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Question using an APD.

If on reserve can I use it to drop a weekend, or does it only work for a specific day? I’d like to have Saturday and Sunday off, but didn’t know if they would only honor 1 day. Thanks!

Actually just found in the contract, looks like up to four consecutive reserve on call days.

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RightSide View Post
Question using an APD.

If on reserve can I use it to drop a weekend, or does it only work for a specific day? I’d like to have Saturday and Sunday off, but didn’t know if they would only honor 1 day. Thanks!

Actually just found in the contract, looks like up to four consecutive reserve on call days.
Don’t forget you can also use iVD days and get vacation pay for those days instead of just losing two days pay.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:16 AM
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Currently, I bid for reserve.... but according to PBS Wide report, no more reserve available and was awarded a line for June.

Just looked at ICREW, and was assigned reserve for June according to ICREW.

Has this happened to anyone before?
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv View Post
Currently, I bid for reserve.... but according to PBS Wide report, no more reserve available and was awarded a line for June.

Just looked at ICREW, and was assigned reserve for June according to ICREW.

Has this happened to anyone before?
That’s why it’s no official until posted in DBMS. But it does sound weird.
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv View Post
Currently, I bid for reserve.... but according to PBS Wide report, no more reserve available and was awarded a line for June.

Just looked at ICREW, and was assigned reserve for June according to ICREW.

Has this happened to anyone before?
Not sure of your category but at least one category in ATL is all messed up. I won't gab further but give it a day or two before you make plans based on what is in iCrew. This is why guys need to be patient and let the company and ALPA overseers take their time on this stuff. Contractually, the company has until 1800 on the 17th to get these schedules into DBMS. They have never not made the deadline.

But because we are pilots, we want our bid results NOW!! and complain when we don't get it. Sometimes it is better to just let the process run, and if it takes the PBS process a little longer (though still contractually compliant) it is better than having to perhaps scramble and fix things later in the game.
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