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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 2851985)
To some, holidays off is a very real QOL item, and it's worth talking about in negotiations. In my category, it's mostly ultra senior guys getting GS over holidays anyway. Why not just have it hashed out in the PBS process? I love me a GS here and there as well, but I'd much rather have holiday pay so the guys who want to fly will bid it. Then guys who want to be home, get stability in knowing they'll be home.
Just saying wait a bit longer is along the lines of, "well I had to deal with it, so you should too"...it doesn't have to be this way. We're all professionals who've paid plenty of dues at the regionals or in the military. Being junior can be terrible enough, there is no reason to not try and make it just a bit better. It's funny to me that we have guys that are of the mindset of protect the GS system at all costs. I'm all for keeping the current GS system in place. But to intentionally NOT go for QOL items in our PWA so they'll continue to get GS's is not only self serving, but also an extremely short sighted way of looking at things. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 2851985)
To some, holidays off is a very real QOL item, and it's worth talking about in negotiations. In my category, it's mostly ultra senior guys getting GS over holidays anyway. Why not just have it hashed out in the PBS process? I love me a GS here and there as well, but I'd much rather have holiday pay so the guys who want to fly will bid it. Then guys who want to be home, get stability in knowing they'll be home.
Just saying wait a bit longer is along the lines of, "well I had to deal with it, so you should too"...it doesn't have to be this way. We're all professionals who've paid plenty of dues at the regionals or in the military. Being junior can be terrible enough, there is no reason to not try and make it just a bit better. It's funny to me that we have guys that are of the mindset of protect the GS system at all costs. I'm all for keeping the current GS system in place. But to intentionally NOT go for QOL items in our PWA so they'll continue to get GS's is not only self serving, but also an extremely short sighted way of looking at things. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 2851985)
To some, holidays off is a very real QOL item, and it's worth talking about in negotiations. In my category, it's mostly ultra senior guys getting GS over holidays anyway. Why not just have it hashed out in the PBS process? I love me a GS here and there as well, but I'd much rather have holiday pay so the guys who want to fly will bid it. Then guys who want to be home, get stability in knowing they'll be home.
Just saying wait a bit longer is along the lines of, "well I had to deal with it, so you should too"...it doesn't have to be this way. We're all professionals who've paid plenty of dues at the regionals or in the military. Being junior can be terrible enough, there is no reason to not try and make it just a bit better. It's funny to me that we have guys that are of the mindset of protect the GS system at all costs. I'm all for keeping the current GS system in place. But to intentionally NOT go for QOL items in our PWA so they'll continue to get GS's is not only self serving, but also an extremely short sighted way of looking at things. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2851978)
I'm against holiday pay because of the Greenslip system. If you can't hold holidays off and that's your priority bid somewhere where you can get it off ofr with the movement we are having stay in your seat for a year or two.
We have much bigger fish to fry like health insurance, Deadheading and retirement then worrying about holidays where alot of pilots are already being paid 200% Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk If only there was a way to get the people who don’t care to be home anyway the extra cash they are looking for so that others who would rather be home could be... |
Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 2851858)
They think it's smart for the FA's, GS people, etc....
I would think Holiday pay wouldn't have to be 2x.....more like 1.5x for the holiday period and if you did GS over it, stay at the 2x level now. I think even at a 1.5x via PBS it would all go senior. I mean bid a 48 hour overnight in germany and get 1.5x pay. Plan in advance to bring the family. Or 30 hours in CUN, or 30 hours in Dayton because you hate life. Whatever floats your boat. As a senior pilot I would love that option. Besides a known always beats the unknown gamble to me. And I say all of that as a senior pilot who bids christmas vacations and have no interest in this and would not benefit in any way. I think a lot of guys would like it. |
I think holiday pay would either go 1.5 x’s for any trip touching APD holidays, or 2 x’s just on the APD holiday days. 2 or even 2.5 x’s would be nice, and maybe an opening position, but don’t think it would ever get into a TA.
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
(Post 2852392)
Is TravelNet inaccessible for others or is it just me?
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Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 2852432)
I often get that if Safari hasn't been completely closed in awhile. Usually restarting Safari or switching to another browser gets you back in.....
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
(Post 2852392)
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