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Denny Crane 08-27-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3117684)
How awesome would that be, you just take a paid leave until your VEOP date!

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Originally Posted by Funk (Post 3117703)
THAT is a spectacular dream! Twelve months of paid voluntary leave, followed by three years of retired pay! Completely moronic, so of course it’s a shoe in. I congratulate you Denny.

Lol! If something is negotiated..............it will be interesting to see what happens! I really don’t see it happening but it’s fun for me to contemplate.:)

A 50hr SIL (or whatever it’s called) with 16% retirement is essentially the same as the VEOP pay but instead of having to pay 51% of DPMP medical premiums for 14 months, I’d only have to cover 2 months.

As a side note, if some form of longterm voluntary leave is negotiated, I wonder what would happen to unused vacation....and whether one would earn vacation for the next year.

Denny

buckleyboy 08-28-2020 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO (Post 3117702)
8th green slip for a SEA 73N B today...F$&@in ridiculous with UNAs sitting around and furloughs imminent...I never thought two plus years ago when I came here it would get this bad. Are we chasing a rabbit around the track here That we’ll never catch up to as far as QOL? Friends who went through multiple interviews here and didn’t get hired are much happier at FDX and SWA...I’m still waiting for this place to be the place I heard from all the senior pilots I flew with and the jumpseats I rode on when flying RJs. I really hope when the dust settles we have some credible leadership in FlightOps and more importantly EB. Optics/Anti-Union is way more important here than anything else and it’s sad...

NeverFlexTO for president!
(Sorry for going political, mods). 😛

iaflyer 08-28-2020 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Funk (Post 3117703)
THAT is a spectacular dream! Twelve months of paid voluntary leave, followed by three years of retired pay! Completely moronic, so of course it’s a shoe in. I congratulate you Denny.

Well over at SWA, a new hire took the early out program (which paid 5 years of half (or so pay)) and went and got hired at Fedex. He gets 5 years of additional pay to start his Fedex career. (related by a good friend at SWA)

WhiskeyDelta 08-28-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3117777)
Well over at SWA, a new hire took the early out program (which paid 5 years of half (or so pay)) and went and got hired at Fedex. He gets 5 years of additional pay to start his Fedex career. (related by a good friend at SWA)


So you’re saying SWA didn’t have a minimum service requirement for their early outs? Not sure if that’s brilliant or foolish.

p3flteng 08-28-2020 07:19 AM

So does anyone else think our management is immoral for paying to manufacture thousands of widget BLM pins for uniform wear while they issued furlough notices and announce pilot layoffs? Leave alone that they run the risk of pizzing off potential and current customers with this political crap...it’s just wrong to spend money on it in a cash strapped revenue restricted company all the while claiming we don’t have enough money to retain 1941 pilots.

3 green 08-28-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 3117862)
So does anyone else think our management is immoral for paying to manufacture thousands of widget BLM pins for uniform wear while they issued furlough notices and announce pilot layoffs? Leave alone that they run the risk of pizzing off potential and current customers with this political crap...it’s just wrong to spend money on it in a cash strapped revenue restricted company all the while claiming we don’t have enough money to retain 1941 pilots.

I know for sure that those pins will offend a fairly large number of our passengers..Some will leave and take their business to SWA..

Jaww 08-28-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 3117862)
So does anyone else think our management is immoral for paying to manufacture thousands of widget BLM pins for uniform wear while they issued furlough notices and announce pilot layoffs? Leave alone that they run the risk of pizzing off potential and current customers with this political crap...it’s just wrong to spend money on it in a cash strapped revenue restricted company all the while claiming we don’t have enough money to retain 1941 pilots.

I angrily wrote this same thing in the politics thread. It’s absurd. If 40,000 people get a pin it’s about $25K in cost. (quick estimate off a whole seller website). Like you said, in a time of money tightness we can fund this but will furlough, fly our planes lean on gas, and claim SILs are not enough to matter. This matter is not only divisive (because of the similarities to the BLM organization itself) but also fiscally irresponsible. You can’t say we need to save every cent and then make political feel good stunts when we are “fighting for our survival.”

p3flteng 08-28-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3117865)
I know for sure that those pins will offend a fairly large number of our passengers..Some will leave and take their business to SWA..

I agree, just like the NRA thing, only magnified 100 times worse. And to spend money on this while you are going to do layoffs...despicable. I really hope the BOD takes some action over this..like Ed’s Head, cause we can’t afford to chase away customers that will surely happen once this goes mainstream...

3 green 08-28-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3117871)
I angrily wrote this same thing in the politics thread. It’s absurd. If 40,000 people get a pin it’s about $25K in cost. (quick estimate off a whole seller website). Like you said, in a time of money tightness we can fund this but will furlough, fly our planes lean on gas, and claim SILs are not enough to matter. This matter is not only divisive (because of the similarities to the BLM organization itself) but also fiscally irresponsible. You can’t say we need to save every cent and then make political feel good stunts when we are “fighting for our survival.”

I think in Ed's mind it is politics first, then Delta next. Pretty obvious by these pins.

Jaww 08-28-2020 07:34 AM

On second thought the pins probably keep the proletariat appeased. A happy worker is an efficient worker. Ed is brilliant.


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