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Old 03-06-2021 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
GS while on RES question. If I have a GS that ends in a DHD and I deviate to an earlier DHD does that change when my PB days start? Or does it go off of the original rotation release time? Thanks.
Rotation as scheduled; no penalty for deviating earlier.
Old 03-06-2021 | 05:22 AM
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Anyone know how a 3-day assignment pays a reserve pilot on 3 RES days (not X days)?
Old 03-06-2021 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Anyone know how a 3-day assignment pays a reserve pilot on 3 RES days (not X days)?
Green Slip is straight pay plus credit on RES days.

Yellow or just being assigned would be just the credit to fill up your month/increase raw score and per diem.

Green Slip over X days gets straight pay plus payback days or additional days off later in the month and no credit.
Old 03-06-2021 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Anyone know how a 3-day assignment pays a reserve pilot on 3 RES days (not X days)?

Assignment on reserve days??? Are you talking about a long call Pilot who accepts a report with less than required notice? If so I believe the first day only goes above the guarantee, but I am not sure this is what you are referring to.

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Old 03-06-2021 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Assignment on reserve days??? Are you talking about a long call Pilot who accepts a report with less than required notice? If so I believe the first day only goes above the guarantee, but I am not sure this is what you are referring to.

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The situation would be a reserve pilot on a string of three Reserve days, who is offered a GS (LC reporting in less than 12 hours) over those three days. If the trip starts with a single short leg to a layover on day one, it’s an easy “no thanks” forgoing only an hour or two over reserve guarantee. But if that trip enters assignment step and comes back up the same list, I am trying to understand if that phone is worth answering. Would it be A#1 and pay double on day one? All three days? I’d like to know what might be worth putting a bug in scheduling’s ear if they are within 2 hours of report and appear to be out of (good) options.
Old 03-06-2021 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Rotation as scheduled; no penalty for deviating earlier.
Awesome, thanks.
Old 03-06-2021 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 180ToAJ
Green Slip is straight pay plus credit on RES days.
Isn't a GS on RSV days just block on day 1 above guarantee with no PB days?

If you're on RSV for 3 days and get a 3 day GS you'll only get block (NOT 5:15 etc) on day 1 above GAR with the rest being free, unless you end up over guarantee for the month anyway.

Right?
Old 03-06-2021 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
The situation would be a reserve pilot on a string of three Reserve days, who is offered a GS (LC reporting in less than 12 hours) over those three days. If the trip starts with a single short leg to a layover on day one, it’s an easy “no thanks” forgoing only an hour or two over reserve guarantee. But if that trip enters assignment step and comes back up the same list, I am trying to understand if that phone is worth answering. Would it be A#1 and pay double on day one? All three days? I’d like to know what might be worth putting a bug in scheduling’s ear if they are within 2 hours of report and appear to be out of (good) options.
Based on my reading of it, you're actually worse off with an inverse assignment, unless you request to move an Xday into the IA rotation.

If you take a GS with less than 12 hours notice on LC that first duty period pays above guarantee (at least 5:15), not only 1 to 2 hours, unless I'm missing something in your example. (Assuming the rotation falls in one month only)

A res pilot on LC:
who is a long-call pilot will receive single pay, no credit (above the reserve guarantee) for the first duty period of a GS rotation flown on an on-call day if the report of the rotation is within 12 hours of the first attempted contact


A reserve pilot who has flown an inversely assigned rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve on-call days (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit for the portion of such rotation(s) that interrupted his X day(s) (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period).

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A reserve pilot: (on IA)
who is awarded an IA rotation in which all duty periods of the rotation are scheduled to operate on on-call days may request one X day that coincides with a day on which the pilot does not have a duty period within the IA rotation be moved to the first day of the IA rotation. (For example, a reserve pilot with one X day on the 12th may be awarded a three-day IA rotation on the 11th which has a 30-hour layover and no duty period touches the 12th. That X day may be moved to the 11th.)

Also, a res pilot on LC:
who is awarded a GS rotation in which all duty periods of the rotation are scheduled to operate on on-call days may request one X day that coincides with a day during which the pilot does not have a duty period within the GS rotation be moved to the first day of the GS rotation.

So basically if you take it on LC you could get an extra 5:15 above guarantee and request to move an Xday to get another 5:15 (I think?), or you could take it as an IA and move an Xday also get 5:15, but no PB (I think?). Looks like LC is the better bet.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Isn't a GS on RSV days just block on day 1 above guarantee with no PB days?

If you're on RSV for 3 days and get a 3 day GS you'll only get block (NOT 5:15 etc) on day 1 above GAR with the rest being free, unless you end up over guarantee for the month anyway.

Right?
Only if the GS is < 12hrs to report.

Check out Sched Alert 19-07 for more details. https://www.alpa.org/dal/-/media/DAL...lert-19-07.pdf
Old 03-06-2021 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Only if the GS is < 12hrs to report.

Check out Sched Alert 19-07 for more details. https://www.alpa.org/dal/-/media/DAL...lert-19-07.pdf
Man DWC...you are on a roll today. Factual informative posts in multiple threads

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BTW...while I wait for 240...are you more inclined to answer questions or rants? (another rhetorical question)(raising kids has predisposed me to one end of the spectrum)
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