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While I generally agree. I think it should have been solved in section 6. We need to stop helping the compay fix its problems. I'm at the wants to watch to world burn stage of the batman.

The Dark Knight @ 56 minutes - I'm getting to that point also. I'm more inclined to grab a bag of popcorn and watch the implosion than lend a hand when things go south. Providing improvements in scope and pay may get me looking for my backpack again.

TransWorld

02-18-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown (Post 3374492)

incorrect. There are about 3,300 applications on file, and bear in mind, these applicants are also applying at United, FedEx, etc.

IF that is correct, it will last the majors through May before being exhausted. What do they do then?

StickPig

02-18-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3374064)

We solved a recruiting problem for the company. Pilots don't work for a company, we provide labor under the terms of a negotiated agreement. Our current PWA is lacking in the eyes of prospective pilots and management knows it. Delta is getting recruiting improvements ahead of providing a complete contract.

If this is your first contract cycle, you will notice improvements for pilots are typically implemented in phases over the length of the contract, while company improvements are day 1. If this isn't your first contract cycle, shame on you for not paying attention. Company improvements are now being done via LOA before we even have a contract, giving them a reason to stall. Call me an @55H01E, but I'm in favor of holding a few new hires hostage to expedite the timeline for a contract that benefits all 13,000 pilots.

Side question: Do probationary pilots get a vote if the PWA goes to memrat?

“In Unity,” right?

Broncos

02-18-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3374033)

2nd year DOH
Probation 1 year DOH or 400 block or completion of Captain OE.

Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk

Minor detail, but it's conversion to Captain, not completion of OE.

Gunfighter

02-18-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by StickPig (Post 3374948)

“In Unity,” right?

Absolutely. Targeted improvements solving company problems outside of Section 6 isn't how a unified labor group operates.

hockeypilot44

02-19-2022 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3374882)

IF that is correct, it will last the majors through May before being exhausted. What do they do then?

There's more coming in but the hiring standards have definitely been lowered. We might be seeing the end of the regionals soon. Flying bigger aircraft with less frequency which will require less pilots but provide more high paying jobs. You know, the way it was in the late 80's.

sailingfun

02-19-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3374882)

IF that is correct, it will last the majors through May before being exhausted. What do they do then?

No we dropped the degree requirement because the company wanted more large RJ’s and did not think the potential legal ramifications through.

sailingfun

02-19-2022 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3374882)

IF that is correct, it will last the majors through May before being exhausted. What do they do then?

Want to place a wager the pool is fine in June?

OOfff

02-19-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3375181)

No we dropped the degree requirement because the company wanted more large RJ’s and did not think the potential legal ramifications through.

what “legal ramifications?”

StickPig

02-19-2022 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3375048)

Absolutely. Targeted improvements solving company problems outside of Section 6 isn't how a unified labor group operates.

But holding hostage NH’s for “collective gain” is solving the problem? Solving that problem looks like this:

Demand your union address that in the PWA, not targeted improvements via LOA or MOU’s. It’s a band aid that benefitted the company, sure. But your stance on holding them hostage for your gain is selfish at best. Training pay is ridiculous. Be upset with the union on continuously working around full stop solutions. IMO they have too much authority as it is. Yet another reason why I dislike ALPA. We 100% should have our own in-house union.

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