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WhiskeyDog 02-16-2022 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3373547)
How's staffing looking in everyone's category? NYC73NA has 6 pilots awarded reserve, and 5 of them have vacation. Should be a lucrative March

Is this a good thing?

Nantonaku 02-16-2022 10:30 AM

I'm I the only one here who remembers the profit sharing check the last two years? The profit sharing check this year is far from being money in the bank. It is likely to be very small.

sailingfun 02-16-2022 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3373567)
I'm I the only one here who remembers the profit sharing check the last two years? The profit sharing check this year is far from being money in the bank. It is likely to be very small.

Its likely to be zero with oil headed to 100 a barrel.

flyinthrew 02-16-2022 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3373547)
How's staffing looking in everyone's category? NYC73NA has 6 pilots awarded reserve, and 5 of them have vacation. Should be a lucrative March

I bid reserve on purpose in NYC73NB. Over 20% of the category is on reserve. There were 7 open trips at the bottom of the Wide report. I would guess that since ALV was set at 84 and reserve coverage so good that there will be a big dump into OT early on, but I still don’t plan to fly much.

I say this to juxtapose with just about every other 73NB category getting their junk pushed in daily. So dumb.

Funk 02-16-2022 02:07 PM

Mou 22-01
 
I would call this an overdue, but good development for our new hires that have been delayed on completely OE through no fault of their own.

From the union email, “Entry level pilots who have gone beyond their 44X simulator event by more than 30 days without completing initial OE, will be transitioned to flight pay at their first year rate. They will be paid in accordance with PWA Section 11 B. 5. d. or a pro rata portion of the reserve guarantee depending on whether they are a regular or reserve pilot. Periods of inactive payroll status will not count towards the 30 days.”

Trip7 02-16-2022 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by flyinthrew (Post 3373582)
I bid reserve on purpose in NYC73NB. Over 20% of the category is on reserve. There were 7 open trips at the bottom of the Wide report. I would guess that since ALV was set at 84 and reserve coverage so good that there will be a big dump into OT early on, but I still don’t plan to fly much.

I say this to juxtapose with just about every other 73NB category getting their junk pushed in daily. So dumb.

Seems the staffing difference between NYC73NB and A has been quite stark the past few months.

Eddiewouldgo 02-16-2022 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3373577)
Its likely to be zero with oil headed to 100 a barrel.

This is a trial balloon that management will be floating as our negotiations continue. Prepare for many more as they seek concessions from us, but remember, “we appreciate everything you do on the line every day”.

TED74 02-16-2022 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo (Post 3373705)
This is a trial balloon that management will be floating as our negotiations continue. Prepare for many more as they seek concessions from us, but remember, “we appreciate everything you do on the line every day”.

They’re also going to get out on the line as much as possible this year to learn ways to support you! -JL

I can save them the trouble…my negotiators speak for me - just get to the negotiating table as much as possible this year and we should be good.

Gunfighter 02-16-2022 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Funk (Post 3373672)
I would call this an overdue, but good development for our new hires that have been delayed on completely OE through no fault of their own.

From the union email, “Entry level pilots who have gone beyond their 44X simulator event by more than 30 days without completing initial OE, will be transitioned to flight pay at their first year rate. They will be paid in accordance with PWA Section 11 B. 5. d. or a pro rata portion of the reserve guarantee depending on whether they are a regular or reserve pilot. Periods of inactive payroll status will not count towards the 30 days.”

It is good in a vacuum, but we just solved one of management's problems with ZERO progress on a contract.

Funk 02-16-2022 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3373780)
It is good in a vacuum, but we just solved one of management's problems with ZERO progress on a contract.

You will have to explain a little on what problem we solved for management. Going back to 2020 and pilots that were on training pay from March through late fall, I watched the union give an answer at their UNA town hall on the question of whether they had engaged with the company on behalf of these pilots. The answer literally started with the phrase, “Well, as it’s clearly spelled out in the PWA . . . .” For anyone watching, it was basically an answer that the union hadn’t advocated for the plight of those pilots and it was a messaging fail that could have otherwise cultivated natural support for the union if the answer had been along the lines of, “we’ve engaged with the company on this issue and . . . .”

More recently some pilots have been on training pay while waiting on OE that may not even be scheduled until after they’ve gone back to the sim for an SRQ course (120 days post 44X). I think advocating for them to be paid flight pay sooner when it’s the company’s fault they haven’t been able to complete OE and convert is the right thing to do, period. I am open to understanding what we’ve solved for the company, but I am not as sympathetic about the idea of leaving the most junior pilots on extended training pay as sort of hostages to advance section 6 negotiations along faster.


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