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waldo135 02-15-2017 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2302029)
Pilot Standards Temporary Duty

A couple of LCA's in most fleets are assigned to give certain Line Checks during the month. Due to the increased number of Mid-Phase, 6-month (for new captains), and Reserves - pilots who don't hold a regular schedule - the schedulers use PSTD's to cover the trips that aren't able to be set up after bidding. They also cover some Special Airport Quals.

Depending upon the type of check being conducted, FO's could get 23.G.5.

So...it looks like the Company didn't give them a line (both are easily line holders) and will use the authority we gave them in this last TA to pull trips from Open Time to use for training without having to pay through 23.G.5. If that's the case, it didn't take very long. Since I think there are 8 320 LCAs in NYC and 2 are showing PSTD for the entire month, they effectively captured 25% of the LCA trips. Correct??

Karnak 02-15-2017 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2302034)
So...it looks like the Company didn't give them a line (both are easily line holders) and will use the authority we gave them in this last TA to pull trips from Open Time to use for training without having to pay through 23.G.5. If that's the case, it didn't take very long.

It was done under the old contract as well. It's been done for several years. The acronym might be new, but the function is the same.

Reserves need line checks too. A trip assigned to a Reserve who needs a line check has a LCA placed on it. The days off might not match. You can't force a LCA to do more than his/her bid flying every month, so a couple of LCA's are placed on "LCA Reserve"...PSTD. In some cases, a LCA who can only hold Reserve can be matched up with a line check, but that can be limited by Reserve availability in the category.

I believe PSTD's have been used to do acceptance flight flying in Hamburg and Mobile for new A321's. A couple have also been used to cover for the Chief LCA when he goes on vacation.


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2302034)
Since I think there are 8 320 LCAs in NYC and 2 are showing PSTD for the entire month, they effectively captured 25% of the LCA trips. Correct??

No. In any given month, there are Reserves who don't have a trip assigned at bidding who need a line check. Any LCA from any other base can cover those, as they do NYC OE. You'd need to analyze the assignment history for non-NYC LCA's covering NYC LCA duties to determine the impact on NYC 23.G.5.

My guess is those two LCA's commute to NYC, and volunteering to do PSTD means they get positive space travel to any base to cover any LCA duties. Makes for an easier commute during Spring Break, and adds some variety to the job.

sailingfun 02-15-2017 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2302034)
So...it looks like the Company didn't give them a line (both are easily line holders) and will use the authority we gave them in this last TA to pull trips from Open Time to use for training without having to pay through 23.G.5. If that's the case, it didn't take very long. Since I think there are 8 320 LCAs in NYC and 2 are showing PSTD for the entire month, they effectively captured 25% of the LCA trips. Correct??

This has been done for the last 30 years if not since the airline started flying. How do you think they conduct all the various line checks required each month?

FMGEC 02-15-2017 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2302042)
This has been done for the last 30 years. How do you think they conduct all the various line checks required each month.

It's weird, but for some people it is more enjoyable to create an illusion of being "one-overed" constantly rather than taking the time to think and comprehend a given situation. Somewhat sadistic where pain and agony are more comforting than when no pain, or even joy is the actual sensation.

Everyone wants great training and competent training personnel. But then when they see what is required to get both of those items they get this idea that it is too lucrative of an environment and those guys are just skating by.

Yes, let's put all LCA on 24/7 reserve status for the full month AND also have them cover the required line checks. They are not allowed to have any schedule to plan any personal events, because "Burt that lives in Hartford" desires to ***** himself out and pick up 3 GS's. Sounds like a great idea.

We'll see how many LCA's we have left after a few months of running that. They'd all quit.

The same can be said for this that watch bid reports for ALPA FPL. 'They're getting too many days off/stealing money from me!' they cry. Yet, don't actually know the situation.

CheapTrick 02-15-2017 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by FMGEC (Post 2302044)

The same can be said for this that watch bid reports for ALPA FPL. 'They're getting too many days off/stealing money from me!' they cry. Yet, don't actually know the situation.

It is so much more fun to complain than actually call and ask.

Dodo 02-15-2017 12:07 PM

Speaking of bid reports, where the B's at?!!!

tunes 02-15-2017 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Dodo (Post 2302353)
Speaking of bid reports, where the B's at?!!!

they are out in DLnet

JamesBond 02-15-2017 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by FMGEC (Post 2302044)
It's weird, but for some people it is more enjoyable to create an illusion of being "one-overed" constantly rather than taking the time to think and comprehend a given situation. Somewhat sadistic where pain and agony are more comforting than when no pain, or even joy is the actual sensation.

Everyone wants great training and competent training personnel. But then when they see what is required to get both of those items they get this idea that it is too lucrative of an environment and those guys are just skating by.

Yes, let's put all LCA on 24/7 reserve status for the full month AND also have them cover the required line checks. They are not allowed to have any schedule to plan any personal events, because "Burt that lives in Hartford" desires to ***** himself out and pick up 3 GS's. Sounds like a great idea.

We'll see how many LCA's we have left after a few months of running that. They'd all quit.

The same can be said for this that watch bid reports for ALPA FPL. 'They're getting too many days off/stealing money from me!' they cry. Yet, don't actually know the situation.

This was actually tried in a way. Without getting too deep into details that I don't remember that well, it wasn't successful. Some LCPs wind up foregoing GSs and even WSs that would have given them a better more enjoyable schedule to make themselves available.

Kjazz130 02-15-2017 03:25 PM

Can you switch reserve days and off days or drop reserve days? I could not find those options in icrew.

Denny Crane 02-15-2017 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Kjazz130 (Post 2302489)
Can you switch reserve days and off days or drop reserve days? I could not find those options in icrew.

Go to PCS/Leave Requests then chose either "Personal Drop" or "Move Reserve Off Days." Just be aware that if you move golden days they lose their "golden" status and become regular X days.

Denny


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