Originally Posted by NavyFlyer (Post 2381876)

For a RES month into a hard line month: if assigned a carry over trip, does the pay go towards Reserve guarantee or the hard line month? What about the extra days worked (in the hard line month)?


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Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2381904)

That would be a valid point if every one of us was being investigated for not being in position for SC. It might be valid if every SC pilot in DTW or NYC was being accused of violating the rules, and told to prove he/she was in position.

But that's not what's happening here.

An event caused the company to suspect that a specific group of pilots might have been breaking the rules. The company didn't create the event. It appears they're only investigating pilots who don't have some clear "footprints" that indicate they were in base while on SC.

I've spoken with a couple of 744 guys who've commuted to SC dozens of times over the past several months who haven't heard boo from the company. Both of them think it's because they jumpseat in/out of DTW.

Your point would be valid if both of them were summoned to prove they'd been in position.



Different deal.

Sick verification is very specific, and none of those specifics in the PWA require you to be sick, or even have symptoms, when you verify. Also, about half of the disqualifying conditions for airmen are self-determined, so proof of something that can't be detected or measured makes your "prove it!" connection weak.



Fortunately, there's the arbitration process. It's a System Board that's not a court of law. It's a professional "neutral" that listens to the facts, the circumstances, and the logic to determine if the rules have been broken.

Any pilot with a reasonable response during the investigation such as, "I drove over from Cleveland and stayed at my girlfriend's house for every short call", will then be able to turn the tables: "Prove you called me while on short call and I wasn't available to take the assignment."

CAUTION! Using that turnabout might not work if the company has a time-stamped Periscope video of you screaming in delirious ecstasy at a Justin Bieber concert.

Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2381995)

I agree that it would be unfair to have to retroactively prove you were in place...

Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2382032)

This goes back to my post yesterday in response to Gloopy's post. Despite Gloopy's concerns, I can't imagine the company is using that approach in any form or manner with regard to "SC-gate." I think the company sees a high $$$ (Int'l widebody) trip go uncovered after a SC assignment and then the audit begins to see if this was a "one-off" event or if there is a verifiable pattern of SC abuse.

I don't believe that the company pulls up each and every SC the "accused" has been assigned over, let's say, the past 36 months and says, "Okay Pilot X....prove to us you were promptly available on each and every one of these days." What I do believe is that the company did its audit and found several/numerous events like the scenario you gave (and, to a more extreme, like the one I posted yesterday) and presents that to the individual.

I guess it all boils down to.....if you are on SC, be on short call. If you are sick, call in sick. If your commute has fallen apart, call in honest/unable to commute. However, if you decide to game the system, remember the old adage - "Don't do the crime if you are't willing to do the time."

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 2382085)

Originally Posted by contrails (Post 2381901)

Does a PCS run ever just get skipped?

Swap with pot in and shows active and no denial reasons but the 17:00 run has come and gone and nothing.