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Tee1Up 06-20-2017 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2382239)
You're exactly right in that this is a case for the system board. The board is typically very employee friendly in matters like this, provided a vigorous defense is presented. The company's case here seems to depend almost completely on circumstantial lack of proof of one's innocence. For the reason they should lose and have to pay a penalty. At the very least, full back pay, reemployment and a clear cut precedent that this type of pathetic big data dump witch hunting will not be allowed to stand.

If the end result is still a handful of dirtbag idiots still sitting SC "from home" a million miles away, then they can come to us we'll see if we can work something out. I'd be all in favor of some kind of location verification system for SC, provided the monthly number of SC's is reduced. Perhaps throw in 4 times a year a normal commuter can use a one flight policy. One of our biggest regionals already has that. We can address their concerns in a way that benefits everyone including them. But establishing BS retroactive criteria where you are guilty if you can't prove your innocence is unacceptable, and the system board will most likely smack that down hard.

And if any pilot is rocking out to the Beibs, they deserve full pay protection while they go to a proper rehabilitation program.

You are seriously joking right? Please tell me you are! Because I am 100% NOT in favor of all reserves having to wear diapers because a few VERY SENIOR reserve pilots might have sh*t their pants! This is NOT an acceptable solution to this problem at all. Why on earth would you think that this is "OK" for everyone because of the poor decisions of select few? Seriously??? Feel free to explain yourself. Persuade me, please.

gloopy 06-20-2017 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tee1Up (Post 2382312)
You are seriously joking right? Please tell me you are! Because I am 100% NOT in favor of all reserves having to wear diapers because a few VERY SENIOR reserve pilots might have sh*t their pants! This is NOT an acceptable solution to this problem at all. Why on earth would you think that this is "OK" for everyone because of the poor decisions of select few? Seriously??? Feel free to explain yourself. Persuade me, please.

Its not exactly a valid "diaper theory" argument if we gain multiple significant improvements out of it for basically no downside. Meanwhile everyone would see permanent gains in the form of fewer assignable SC's and a superior commutable policy. That would be a huge win for all reserves as well as commuting to reserve. If the only downside is a fair and reasonable verification of where you are at start of the SC (when you must be promptly available anyway, and relatively immediately available for contact anyway) then there is ZERO downside. Except for the punks who acknowledge thousands of miles away knowing they can't be there. Sucks for them, but I chalk that up as a positive as well.

80ktsClamp 06-20-2017 04:42 PM

Ok... who broke PCS this morning?? I think that might be a new record! I was very pleased with the results, though!

crewdawg 06-20-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2382406)
Ok... who broke PCS this morning?? I think that might be a new record! I was very pleased with the results, though!

A bug with the IVDs was the culprit... fixed now.

80ktsClamp 06-20-2017 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2382412)
A bug with the IVDs was the culprit... fixed now.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/...the-glitch.jpg

Rooster435 06-20-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2382412)
A bug with the IVDs was the culprit... fixed now.

How long have they known about IVDs and IT waits until 4 hours before the first PCS run using IVDs to update the template? It's like the Keystone cops.

crewdawg 06-21-2017 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 2382465)
How long have they known about IVDs and IT waits until 4 hours before the first PCS run using IVDs to update the template? It's like the Keystone cops.

I can only imagine the stress and heartache it caused, when the pcs ran for a few extra hours.

Tee1Up 06-21-2017 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2382402)
Its not exactly a valid "diaper theory" argument if we gain multiple significant improvements out of it for basically no downside. Meanwhile everyone would see permanent gains in the form of fewer assignable SC's and a superior commutable policy. That would be a huge win for all reserves as well as commuting to reserve. If the only downside is a fair and reasonable verification of where you are at start of the SC (when you must be promptly available anyway, and relatively immediately available for contact anyway) then there is ZERO downside. Except for the punks who acknowledge thousands of miles away knowing they can't be there. Sucks for them, but I chalk that up as a positive as well.

Thanks for adding some clarification. I guess I'm not seeing how you would expect this to work. The only way I see "checking in at the start of a SC" is by physically checking in at the airport. Who wants to do that if they can physically (and legally) sit SC from home? I also don't see the number of SC's being reduced. Isn't that a formula that is already in the contract? I don't know. I can understand your arguments, but I am just adamantly against any sort of "tracking mechanism" for SC and certainly against having to physically go to the airport to "check in" for SC. Any designed system will be susceptible to loop holes and workarounds for those creative enough to exploit them. Deal with them individually and continue to treat the majority that do it right as professionals. Just my 2 cents. Change accepted.

Denny Crane 06-21-2017 04:50 PM

Way back in the dark ages no one would have even thought about commuting to reserve. Back then every day of on call reserve had two separate periods of short call. Now pilots commute across country to reserve....

Unless you are a new hire, being on reserve is a choice. If a pilot finds commuting to SC onerous then s/he should bid a regular line on whatever equipment s/he can hold. End of story. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Denny

Jaww 06-21-2017 04:53 PM

Anybody notice the blurb on iCrew saying QCQ is currently unavailable?


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