your 12 hr leash starts at midnight. Earliest trip report would be just after noon.

Ok thanks. So basically wake up and check the schedule.

Or answer the phone when it rings at 1201.......

And...the 3 o'clock base time only applies to the first day. You are on continuous long call until your next day off or you are assigned something else before then.

In the real world people have to prove their innocence all the time. What methodology would be preferable? The number of times they called in sick when they were given a trip on short call? Not likely to succeed given its vagueness. The harm they caused "all of us" by canceled flights? Quantifiable but not legally justifiable within the PWA.

At some point you may have to concede that some people could care less about "all of us".

They could care less if:
- Our profit sharing is slightly less because of a canceled flight.
- Someone else has to cover what should have been their flight because they actually were in position.
- Pax will now book away from Delta next time or maybe forever because they were inconvenienced, missed their cruise, a business meeting, etc.

In spite of them not caring they were defended vigorously by "all of us".

This is the best job in the world but it nonetheless may entail missing births, funerals, holidays, weddings and sometimes doing what we may not always want to do - like sitting a hundred short calls and not being assigned a trip. (I have checked all of the above.) They could have bid another airplane and gotten more senior but decided to game the system because of greed and the fact they only really cared about themselves. Or maybe they were senior and just were gaming the system.

Not "all of us" have a lot of sympathy.

Maybe they'll eventually get their job back. I don't know. But if nothing else this has put the fear of God in someone thinking of sitting DTW short call in LAX. A little religion now and then is not always a bad thing.

you are NEVER required to check your schedule while on call.

For a RES month into a hard line month: if assigned a carry over trip, does the pay go towards Reserve guarantee or the hard line month? What about the extra days worked (in the hard line month)?


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The normal ops of this job are really pretty simple once you figure it out. Bid a trip/show up and fly your trip. Bid (or assigned reserve) show up and be available when required. If you are sick/call in sick. If circumstances go to crap (and you commute)/ call in unable to commute. How hard is that?
If you want to play fast and loose with the rules, it's kind of like gaming the IRS. It will catch up with you sooner or later.

Does a PCS run ever just get skipped?

Swap with pot in and shows active and no denial reasons but the 17:00 run has come and gone and nothing.

That would be a valid point if every one of us was being investigated for not being in position for SC. It might be valid if every SC pilot in DTW or NYC was being accused of violating the rules, and told to prove he/she was in position.

But that's not what's happening here.

An event caused the company to suspect that a specific group of pilots might have been breaking the rules. The company didn't create the event. It appears they're only investigating pilots who don't have some clear "footprints" that indicate they were in base while on SC.

I've spoken with a couple of 744 guys who've commuted to SC dozens of times over the past several months who haven't heard boo from the company. Both of them think it's because they jumpseat in/out of DTW.

Your point would be valid if both of them were summoned to prove they'd been in position.

Different deal.

Sick verification is very specific, and none of those specifics in the PWA require you to be sick, or even have symptoms, when you verify. Also, about half of the disqualifying conditions for airmen are self-determined, so proof of something that can't be detected or measured makes your "prove it!" connection weak.

Fortunately, there's the arbitration process. It's a System Board that's not a court of law. It's a professional "neutral" that listens to the facts, the circumstances, and the logic to determine if the rules have been broken.

Any pilot with a reasonable response during the investigation such as, "I drove over from Cleveland and stayed at my girlfriend's house for every short call", will then be able to turn the tables: "Prove you called me while on short call and I wasn't available to take the assignment."

CAUTION! Using that turnabout might not work if the company has a time-stamped Periscope video of you screaming in delirious ecstasy at a Justin Bieber concert.