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Vincent Chase 06-24-2017 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2384507)
I will call the on Monday (after hours is for emer only.)

Some people call 911 if they don't get the correct fast food order.

Just sayin'.:eek:

Han Solo 06-24-2017 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2384507)
I will call the on Monday (after hours is for emer only.)

Basically Day 1 was EWR/MSP/BIL. Before sign-in they cancelled MSP/BIL and assigned us a layover in MSP.

Enroute to MSP they re-routed us again back to a BIL layover but with a different flight number.

More money sounds like an emergency to me :). Based off what I read I don't think you qualify for RR pay but please keep us informed. Afaik they can treat you like a reserve once your 1st leg is over, and as long as they don't extend you 4 hours past your original block-in they owe you nothing extra assuming you didn't block over what the original trip paid.

Imapilot2 06-24-2017 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2384058)
So...my wife is non-reving out of ATL. 2 folks junior to me AND a Buddy Pass all get cleared into Delta Comfort. My wife is sent to a back middle seat. isn't there somewhere in TravelNet I can ask for an explanation?

I'm curious if they were on the upgrade request list? And your wife was not?

waldo135 06-24-2017 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 2384711)
I'm curious if they were on the upgrade request list? And your wife was not?

Nope. My wife was listed for First (the default when you list). They just went out of order. I reached out to the station manager via email, but no response yet.

FL370esq 06-24-2017 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2384472)
So if you're rerouted before sign-in (second leg cancelled, layover in a hub.) And then rerouted again on your first leg (added a second leg and laying over in a different city) do you get any premium pay?

Nope...with certain exceptions, premium pay generally doesn't kick in until your reroute extends your rotation more than 4 hours past your scheduled release of the last duty period of your original rotation. (23.L.8).

However, 23.L.2.a states a regular pilot may not be rerouted prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of his rotation. Not sure what the "penalty" is to the company for violating this provision though.

Denny Crane 06-24-2017 06:02 PM

He was notified of the reroute prior to the first leg but the actual reroute did not take place until after the airborne departure of his first leg. (He flew the first leg as scheduled.) So, technically, since he didn't fly the reroute until after the first leg, wasn't he rerouted after the airborne departure of his first leg.........?

23L2 doesn't state he can't be notified of a reroute prior to the airborne departure of the first leg, just that you cannot be rerouted prior...(with the exceptions)

Denny

GogglesPisano 06-24-2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2384740)
He was notified of the reroute prior to the first leg but the actual reroute did not take place until after the airborne departure of his first leg. (He flew the first leg as scheduled.) So, technically, since he didn't fly the reroute until after the first leg, wasn't he rerouted after the airborne departure of his first leg.........?

23L2 doesn't state he can't be notified of a reroute prior to the airborne departure of the first leg, just that you cannot be rerouted prior...(with the exceptions)

Denny

It's a grey area. I've scoured the SRH and the PWA but can't see any extra cash. The only thing that's piqued my curiosity is the double re-route. (Double because first we were re-routed to a MSP layover, then we were rerouted to a BIS layover.)

I'll report back when I hear from ALPA.

notEnuf 06-24-2017 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2384794)
It's a grey area. I've scoured the SRH and the PWA but can't see any extra cash. The only thing that's piqued my curiosity is the double re-route. (Double because first we were re-routed to a MSP layover, then we were rerouted to a BIS layover.)

I'll report back when I hear from ALPA.

The new contract allows double reroutes. Enjoy. :)

Denny Crane 06-24-2017 10:46 PM

Y'all will get a kick out of this reroute story. Earlier this month I whiteslipped a trip. DH SEA-AMS and fly back. Nice little 3day worth about 20:15. Next morning I go to the lobby to get the crew bus and lo and behold...............I will be the third Captain on this leg! :eek: Mind you, I DH'd over to fly this leg. There was a LCA giving a TOE... So, being the conscientious dude I am, I call the duty pilot figuring, hey, I'm just gonna DH back! Cool! But no, the inbound FLT from SLC had canceled and I got rerouted to stay in AMS another day and fly relief Captain to Detroit, layover and DH home making it a 5 day trip now worth 26:55. The good part, I got an additional 16:52 reroute pay because the reroute got me home more than 30 hrs after my scheduled trip. (International rule for RR pay that becomes 25 hrs on July 2) I got to DTW and deviated DH and went home on the same day.

Denny

Brick 06-25-2017 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2384845)
Y'all will get a kick out of this reroute story. Earlier this month I whiteslipped a trip. DH SEA-AMS and fly back. Nice little 3day worth about 20:15. Next morning I go to the lobby to get the crew bus and lo and behold...............I will be the third Captain on this leg! :eek: Mind you, I DH'd over to fly this leg. There was a LCA giving a TOE... So, being the conscientious dude I am, I call the duty pilot figuring, hey, I'm just gonna DH back! Cool! But no, the inbound FLT from SLC had canceled and I got rerouted to stay in AMS another day and fly relief Captain to Detroit, layover and DH home making it a 5 day trip now worth 26:55. The good part, I got an additional 16:52 reroute pay because the reroute got me home more than 30 hrs after my scheduled trip. (International rule for RR pay that becomes 25 hrs on July 2) I got to DTW and deviated DH and went home on the same day.

Denny

Denny,

I'm just a poolie looking in from the outside, but I'm trying to make sense of this math. Did this crew scheduling mistake turn into a 44 hr 5 day!? This has to be a golden ticket opportunity that rarely comes around. If not, sign me up!


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