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georgetg 05-17-2015 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1882605)
I got a carry-out trip that begins on 1 July and ends 4 July (82 hours for the month...). I am going to try and PD it on the 20th and have a question.

When I bring up the "pilot reserve levels" for the 02 June bid period it shows 5 reserves required, 1 available for 1 July. However, when I bring up the raw schedule, there are 9 people on reserve the 1st of July. Can somebody explain the discrepancy? Seems like scheduling is cheating to try and force people to fly on the holiday.

They do this all the time....

Bottom line the "Reserve Availability List" is not accurate.
Even a start time next to your name doesn't mean you are "off the hook" for the time not listed on that screen.

It's really something that has been in dire need for fixing.
I've run it up the flagpole with Sched Supervisors and DALPA many times and have been consistently met with indifference at best.

But go ahead, give them a call!

Cheers
George

Alan Shore 05-17-2015 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1882633)
The reserves available number used to be adjusted based on the amount of open time. I know there have been some changes in the system but I think that is still the case.

It is not. That was changed when we got the new reserves required formula in 2011. Now, open time that showed up in the pot at least 3 days prior to report is added to the number of reserves required, rather than being subtracted from the number of reserves available. Trips that become uncovered less than 3 days prior to report are not counted.

Alan Shore 05-17-2015 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by SawF16 (Post 1882638)
One thing to check is whether all the guys on reserve that day are done with IOE or not. They may not show as shadow those days, but until they are signed off, they won't show as available WRT the reserve levels/reserve availability list.

As the month passed and folks get signed off, the numbers should improve, hopefully enough to drop at some point.

Great point.

sailingfun 05-17-2015 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1882646)
It is not. That was changed when we got the new reserves required formula in 2011. Now, open time that showed up in the pot at least 3 days prior to report is added to the number of reserves required, rather than being subtracted from the number of reserves available. Trips that become uncovered less than 3 days prior to report are not counted.

I knew something had changed. The entire month in Mike's category shows mostly 1 or 2 available so I doubt anything strange is going on. If Anything the required number seems low with the amount of open time.
8 trips is a lot in a small category for 1 day.
Some of those trips will get White slipped which will help. I never worked on the 4th even as a junior guy. I would always ws a trip late in the JUN bid period forcing a drop of any trip awarded over the 4th. The 2 and 3 day trips on the 1st may get grabbed to do the same after the July bids are out.

Alan Shore 05-17-2015 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1882678)
The entire month in Mike's category shows mostly 1 or 2 available...

Which category?

MikeF16 05-17-2015 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1882691)
Which category?

NYC 717B

As stated earlier, the entire month shows mostly 5-8 required with 1 available. Makes no sense.

forgot to bid 05-17-2015 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1882709)
NYC 717B

As stated earlier, the entire month shows mostly 5-8 required with 1 available. Makes no sense.

gs bonanza is what that is.

LeineLodge 05-17-2015 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1882709)
NYC 717B

As stated earlier, the entire month shows mostly 5-8 required with 1 available. Makes no sense.

Funny you bring this up. I just sent an email a few days ago to the NYC reps and the 66 Scheduling guys. They are looking into this and said they would be get back to me.

To give you an example, look at June 28th. There are 15 pilots awarded RES on the wide report, while iCrew only shows 2 Available that day. Something that needs to be looked at for sure.

I'll let you know when I hear something back.

LeineLodge 05-17-2015 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1882710)
gs bonanza is what that is.

For the few guys that might actually live nearby it is for sure.

For anyone trying to commute/PD/Swap, not so much.

My contention is they should be counting anyone that is awarded RES on that day, whether they have finished OE yet or not. It is more than reasonable to assume that they will be out on the line by the time that date rolls around, unless they are on Shadow days.

Even if we spot them the Shadow days, that would still make the majority of the month positive (at least prior to the first PCS run) allowing for a little bit of QOL in categories affected by this issue.

georgetg 05-17-2015 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1882715)
Funny you bring this up. I just sent an email a few days ago to the NYC reps and the 66 Scheduling guys. They are looking into this and said they would be get back to me.

To give you an example, look at June 28th. There are 15 pilots awarded RES on the wide report, while iCrew only shows 2 Available that day. Something that needs to be looked at for sure.

I'll let you know when I hear something back.

Leine, In my experience the discrepancy between reserves available and reserves required can even occur after all uncovered trips have been covered.

This issue affects reserves and line holders alike, because it reduces pilots ability to avail themselves to contractually agreed upon ways to modify their schedule...yet somehow there seems little will to fix it...

Cheers
George


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