Easy. No ties :)

Here's the scope update from NYC tonight.

"Scope Compliance and Analysis
Delta currently operates 784 mainline aircraft. SkyTeam consists of 20 member airlines. In 2012, Delta Connection operated 348 50-seat jets; in 2015, Delta Connection operates 179 50-seat jets. There has been a 27 percent reduction in Delta passengers on ALK since the last quarterly report."

So we would hope DALPA is concerned about all areas of our scope. Let's see...
Skyteam / JV: Check (although neither of those numbers really mean much)
Alaska: Check (although we have AS mgt to thank for that gift - ALPA had nothing to do with it)
50 Seaters: Check

It seems like there's one little section of scope that was left out. Not sure they would be so malevolent as to do it on purpose, unless we are about to see a TA with MORE concessions in this area. Some hints:
- It's a certain aircraft size bigger than 50-seaters and smaller than Alaska
- We traded some doomed-to-fail 50-seaters for them in 2012
- The manufacturers start with C and E

Anyone? DALPA?

I tried to attach the full report from which you presumably quoted, but it's too bid. You can find it on the DALPA website under Committees ==> Scope Analysis and Compliance. It goes through all of Section 1, including the current AF JV violation.

that's big picture stuff. Evidently you can't do that if riding a 757 js. Try being more self centered and small picture and complain about the captain's seat position. :D



I am trying to remember if I ever complained about the 737 cat bird seat and having a Captains head in a location that.... no man has ever been and will ever be invited to go.

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Thanks all for the great England suggestions. Any lodging recommendations? Favorite good deal hotels or B & Bs?

Too big....

Or perhaps it was because the NWA rates were lower then the Delta rates to start with. To have brought the rates above the Delta rates would have resulted in all the funding that was available going to NW pilots only. As it was the NW side received higher pay raises then the Delta side. Had the NW side received all of the money the joint contract would have not been ratified. The NWA reps fully understood this. The compromise was bigger raises for the North with equipment banded in pay. All and all a reasonable and smart approach.

If you go to Duxford, Shuttleworth Collection is nearby--it's kind of like an English Old Rhonebeck--WW I planes. Cambridge or Oxford are both great, walkable cities. A punt tour on the River Cam is great fun and history. Bath is a wonderful, but expensive city.

Columbia House off Bayswater Road in London is a good, inexpensive hotel in LON--ex-USAF club and hotel.

GF

AA vs DL CORRECTED PAY

CAPTAIN
AA Pay Group AA DL 12 yr 12 yr 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 307.76 270.25 -12.2% 291.62 256.09 -12.2%
IV B777 293.11 270.25 -7.8% 277.74 256.09 -7.8%
IV B787 293.11 258.90 -11.7% 277.74 245.19 -11.7%
IV B767-4 290.11 255.28 -12.9% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
IV A330 290.11 255.28 -12.9% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
III B767 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
III B757 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
II B737-900 234.67 218.05 -7.1% 221.81 206.48 -6.9%
II B737-700/800 234.67 216.92 -7.6% 221.81 205.56 -7.3%
II A320/319 234.67 209.31 -10.8% 221.81 198.23 -10.6%
II M88/90 234.67 205.56 -12.4% 221.81 192.46 -13.2%
I B717 153.65 195.19 27.0% 145.54 184.91 27.1%

FIRST OFFICER
AA Pay Group AA DL 12 yr 12 yr 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 210.20 184.59 -12.2% 186.92 164.14 -12.2%
IV B777 200.20 184.59 -7.8% 178.02 164.14 -7.8%
IV B787 200.20 176.83 -11.7% 178.02 157.17 -11.7%
IV B767-4 200.20 174.35 -12.9% 178.02 155.04 -12.9%
IV A330 200.20 174.35 -12.9% 178.02 155.04 -12.9%
III B767 170.27 154.50 -9.3% 150.17 136.26 -9.3%
III B757 170.27 154.50 -9.3% 150.17 136.26 -9.3%
II B737-900 160.28 148.93 -7.1% 142.18 132.34 -6.9%
II B737-700/800 160.28 148.16 -7.6% 142.18 131.77 -7.3%
II A320/319 160.28 142.96 -10.8% 142.18 127.06 -10.6%
II M88/90 160.28 140.40 -12.4% 142.18 123.36 -13.2%
I B717 104.93 133.30 27.0% 93.30 118.53 27.0%

Same thing. Politics. Aircraft capability had nothing to do with it.