Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1881646)

A possible TA in the very near future cannot be possible since pay rates have not been exchanged. This must be a late April fools joke.

Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 1881641)

Discuss...

"May 15, 2015
(pdf is attached as a viewing option)

Council 66 Pilots,

As you are aware, negotiations between ALPA and the Company are proceeding at a record pace. It appears a tentative agreement is quite possible in the very near future. Emphasis on possible. There are no guarantees when it comes to negotiations.

Recently, the company announced a large stock buyback program as part of its capital deployment strategy. This buyback shows the strength of Delta Air Lines and is, in no small part, a result of the sacrifices that this pilot group made years ago to help Delta get back on its feet and become the airline that it is today. It also reaffirms what we have said all along—the Company has ample resources to deliver the contract we expect and deserve.

We want to assure you the direction we are giving the negotiators and the MEC administration is to make sure we get it right and not sacrifice quality for expediency.

We will continue to fight on your behalf, with your direction as our guide.

Stay informed. Your continued input matters.

Fly safe,"

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1881662)

I don't know about that. If it goes like C'12 did it could be pretty quick.

MEC: We want 10, 15, 6, 6
DAL: You can have 4, 8.5, 3, 3, and you'll pay for some of that with your PS.
MEC: Well, OK.
DAL: Now let's talk about how we can reduce QOL for your reserve pilots.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1881566)

Maybe Captain Kangaroo hates when the jumpseater refuses to turn sideways on the jumpseat. (just something to think about.) :D

Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1881736)

I spent a long time on the 757. There is a decent JS solution here.

Turn sideways, take the padded foam cushion for your back (which is only velcroed in) and lean it against the left armrest. It actually provides pretty good back support. Lean back, place legs on suitcase, Jepp airline kit, etc and relax as best you can.

Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1881695)

Here are the AA 1/2016 Pay Rates vs Delta. Note the effects of Pay Banding to the 330/767-4 and the 320/88. So unless we get a 16% pay across the board, various rate adjustment by fleet, or Pay Banding, some aircraft will not pay equal to AA (330, 764, 320 & 88). Also note how poor the Group I a/c (B717) is on the AA side. FYI... A321 is a Group II a/c... major fail.


CAPT AA DL AA DL AA
Pay Group. 12 yr 12 yr. 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 307.76 270.25 -12.2% 291.62. 256.09. -12.2%
IV B777 290.11. 270.25 -6.8% 277.74. 256.09. -7.8%
IV B787 290.11 258.90 -10.8% 277.74. 245.19 -11.7%
IV B767-4 290.11 255.28 -12.0% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
IV A330 290.11 255.28 -12.0% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
III B767 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
III B757 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
II B737-900 234.67 218.05 -7.1% 221.81 206.48 -6.9%
II B737-700/800 234.67 216.92 -7.6% 221.81 207.18 -6.6%
II A320/319 234.67 209.31 -10.8% 221.81 199.83 -9.9%
II M88/90 234.67 205.56 -12.4% 221.81 194.02 -12.5%
I B717 153.65 195.19 27.0% 145.54 186.42 28.1%

FIRST OFFICER
AA DL AA DL AA Pay Group 12 yr 12 yr 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 210.20 179.21 -14.7% 186.92 159.36 -14.7%
IV B777 200.20 179.21 -10.5% 178.02 159.36 -10.5%
IV B787 200.20 179.21 -10.5% 178.02 152.59 -14.3%
IV B767-4 200.20 179.21 -10.5% 178.02 150.52 -15.4%
IV A330 200.20 179.21 -10.5% 178.02 150.52 -15.4%
III B767 170.27 150.00 -11.9% 150.17 132.29 -11.9%
III B757 170.27 150.00 -11.9% 150.17 132.29 -11.9%
II B737-900 160.28 144.59 -9.8% 142.18 128.49 -9.6%
II B737-700/800 160.28 143.84 -10.3% 142.18 127.93 -10.0%
II A320/319 160.28 138.80 -13.4% 142.18 123.36 -13.2%
II M88/90 160.28 136.31 -15.0% 142.18 119.77 -15.8%
I B717 104.93 129.42 23.3% 93.30 115.07 23.3%

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1881762)

. Same reason why our 747 and 777 pay the same and the 330 and 767-400 pay the same.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1881761)

That's what I do when I sit on the 757 jumpseat. No biggie.

Normally when I'm up there I'm just happy I'm not on jumpseat for the next flight which is normally a -88. :D

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1881687)

That's really interesting. I thought it was only the FO rep that had his act together in NYC. Could it be that the Captain rep also is ready to defy the MEC administration? Could it actually be 10-9 now in favor of the restorationists?

Carl