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FIIGMO 05-05-2015 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1874261)
Chit Chat board says Top Men said Friday, at noon.



W T F? Denny promised i would be a CA on cinco de Mayo!

FFS:eek:

gloopy 05-05-2015 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1873021)
Sorry for the confusion, I was talking about going from a 75hr. cap up to the MEC claimed 'average' 92. hrs being flown now, for the 2,500 pilot positions lost. You are correct, the IOE trip hold-back issue wouldn't be nearly that many, but I'll try to run some napkin math on that now, just to see how many jobs it might cost.

We know Delta is hiring about 100/month. All 100 of those new pilots are going to need IOE. If they are all domestic (and some are going to the ER) they will most likely get an IOE of about 25 hours (might be even more, certainly for the ER it will be). So take the 100 newbs, every month, X 25 block hours = 2,500 block hours of flying held out of the bid packages, every month, which at say 80hrs per line, would = 31.25 lines of flying held back, every month.

And that's JUST for the new hires.

Now, let's add in all the upgrades and seat changing in every category. Look at the A/E out right now. How many IOE events will that create? I don't have it in front of me but it will create a LOT of IOE's.

Going forward, when the new A330's and 350's and A321's start showing up; more IOE trips NOT in the bid packages, more lost positions.

Now throw in lost jobs due to Pay Banding, if the company comes after that, and I'm sure they will.

That all adds up to fewer upgrades required and fewer bodies in every category.

We already got to see what PBS has done for upward progression, or lack of, now that the average pilot is flying 92, vs. 75. That was the -2,500 jobs.

Now add in everything you said about all the JV non-compliance.

Richard wants to run this place as lean as possible, obviously. That's his job.

It would be nice if DALPA would do THEIR JOB and stand up to Richard, to protect OUR JOBS, for once.

I hear ya. I'm just wish bottom middle and top end scope was as big a hot button issue as OE recovery. Ignored JV language with rumors of "monetizing" it instead, open ended Alaska abuse language that permits them to reestablish their dominance over us [as part of the DL system with 737's] and 100+ seat "RJ's" at the regionals are all much bigger issues than a few jailhouse lawyers doing nothing for full pay or working a regular sked for triple pay.

In any case, if the NC/pilot group is as rumored here even considering any kind of reform to the current no obligation OE recovery, the net effect needs to be staffing neutral to staffing positive of no deal IMO, and I suspect the company wouldn't be interested in that anyway.

gloopy 05-05-2015 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1873210)
Management's choice to have 9 fleets causes tons of penalty time and tons of training.

These are not our problems to fix. Delta is very (extremely) profitable. There is no reason to make further productivity concessions.

Exactly. Not to mention their 3+ regional fleets spread wet tissue thin over 6 or 7 regional carriers all because they're still freaking out over a regional strike almost 15 years ago and still clinging to the grossly out dated Fred Reid "portfolio concept". :rolleyes:

ALl of those inefficiencies need to be fully and completely backed out of any and all EF'nA calculations.

Brocc15 05-05-2015 01:11 PM

Hey quick question for you PBS gurus. How do I slide vacation? I put set condition slide vacation, and it lets me enter a number up to the number 4. Does this slide the vacation to later in the month or earlier in the month? I am guessing later because any more than 4 would be into July. Can you slide it both ways?

Herkflyr 05-05-2015 01:17 PM

Yes you can slide it either way. The PBS Gouge explains all this in good detail.

Timbo 05-05-2015 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1874310)
Hey quick question for you PBS gurus. How do I slide vacation? I put set condition slide vacation, and it lets me enter a number up to the number 4. Does this slide the vacation to later in the month or earlier in the month? I am guessing later because any more than 4 would be into July. Can you slide it both ways?

Yes, you can slide it both ways. To slide it earlier in the month, you use the minus sign in front of how many days you want it slid, like this: -7 which would be 7 days earlier in the month.

And you are right, the reason it will only show you plus 4 days is, you cannot slide it into the next month.

Timbo 05-05-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1874266)
W T F? Denny promised i would be a CA on cinco de Mayo!

FFS:eek:

Well...now the chit chat guy is saying they are trying to get it done earlier, might be done late Thursday.... but keep checking iCrew under A/E awards, you might see it there first.

Carl Spackler 05-05-2015 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 1873956)

Yeah, but does it have a built-in sauce rack?

This bad boy will change your life. :D

Carl

Carl Spackler 05-05-2015 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1873927)
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Dear Capt. Spackler,

We are in receipt of the underboob you sent us on May 4th, for which we thank you.

With regards to the issue of "Sick Time", it appears that we, and others involved, concur on several points:

1) The issue (like the underboob) is largely manufactured.
2) There have been no demonstrations of systemic abuse requiring any panties (of which your picture contained none) to be damaged.

It appears to us that it would be just as foolish to try to prove that there has not been any abuse at the individual level, as it is to equate anecdotal reports of abuse with a systemic problem.

We will close the file.

Sincerely,

Sink r8 & Company

Dear Admiral Sink r8,

After receipt of your correspondence, we are compelled to keep you abreast of current threats to our profession so you can remain safe within the bosom of your fellow pilots. We should all strive for no cleavage between us.

There is no question that our managers are being coached by Ford & Harrison trained operatives. The F&H methodology for union busting is an approach based on stealth and usurping a union's unity from within. The approach is based on false data and false claims for the purpose of pilots voluntarily devaluing certain contractual items and seeing their group as unworthy of gains. It's a softer and more effective approach versus direct labor confrontation. The purposeful attempt by members of our own Union to devalue profit sharing by referring to it as "at risk compensation" is an example. Pilots resigning themselves to another sick leave degradation because of false and unproven claims of "others" who shamelessly abuse sick leave, is another example.

It's useful to understand the F&H strategies because once you know them, it's easy to recognize the tactics as they're being deployed.

Warmest regards,

Carl

Brocc15 05-05-2015 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1874344)
Yes, you can slide it both ways. To slide it earlier in the month, you use the minus sign in front of how many days you want it slid, like this: -7 which would be 7 days earlier in the month.

And you are right, the reason it will only show you plus 4 days is, you cannot slide it into the next month.

Thanks! It actually won't let me enter a minus sign. I'm using Chrome which isn't approved so that could be the problem, but not an issue anyway since I want to slide it to later in the month.


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