Typical. Quit or join us....don't complain....we know better....no transparency allows us to do what we want. Exactly the attitudes the cronies want to propagate.

If it weren't for guys like PD, the union would be a complete disaster of spending 100% of their time slapping each other on the back and figuring out how to scam more money while doing as little as possible to not rock the boat that contains the feed trough.

Getting called out is the only thing that keeps them moderately honest.

You can only be forced to take it once per trip unless you have a 30 hour layover. In my experience, there is heavy pressure to extend. I have never not extended because the path of least resistance is extending. I have not had a captain yet that wanted to call it a day. If you decline extension, you have to fill out a detailed ASAP report and talk to the duty pilot.

Yes, commuting is a choice and as long as commuting remains a choice, I will continue working for the company. If the company said commuting wasn't a choice, I would quit. The fact that they changed the commuting rules during negotiations, prior to the worst commuting season of the year, with record load factors, after the AEs to bases (NYC, LAX, SEA) with a large amount of offline commuting is a cheap shot at the pilot group.

This isn't the only career option available. We are all college educated professionals with many options outside of just this one employer. Most of us have options outside of this career field entirely, it's a shame not everyone sees that. If we had the self confidence to believe in our career potential as a group, 50% +1 would be a much higher threshold in negotiations.

I would suggest you wear something acceptable for riding the jump seat. Just in case.


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Congratulations and I wish you well. ...looking for a company with $300k plus potential that never requires you to live where you work... never requires a move to keep a job.. almost no work to take home... Seriously? The CEO is in the office at 5:30 and you expect to be in ? Montana? OFG

Sarcasm dude. This guy constantly oozes anti-ALPA stuff.

I highly doubt that....

Ok, so every new hire has to move to NYC? Yeah, we would get a lot of high quality apps with that.

........ Not worth it. Back to lurking status and laughing at all the whining.

Once upon a time, in a kingdom far away, before jump seat, just about everybody lived in base. There are still some diehards at ORD that meet once a week for pizza and milk..........