My reps know me well. I report from time to time here generally what they have indicated to me. In the interest of anonymity, I'm sure you understand why I don't post their specific thoughts here.

Glad to hear you enjoyed your burrito. I'm sure there is an apropos metaphor for such a bloated, gas-inducing indulgence as it relates to your ALPA arrogance, but I don't have time to come up with one now.

And what were your talking points again for keeping the survey results secret?

Done deal, as in, it's not gonna happen? Or, done deal, as in, in's all but decided it's on it's way?

Very strange considering the latest crew resources blast mentioned a reduction of 22% of ER flying in Sept?

These are rough numbers:

At AAL, the current fleet makeup is 9% in band 1, 25% in band 2 and 65% in band 3. When the 75/76s and the MD80s go away, that changes to 9% in band 1 and 91% in band 3. The group's total pay goes down, and career earnings potential will drop as well. There are assumptions that I made with respect to fleet, but I used all current models and orders and removed only the 75/76s and M80s.

I disagree with you on training. If you are making the same on a 737 as you would on an A320, why go to training? It is the transition that has everyone perplexed. Once it is in place, there is zero reason to go to training unless you just want to fly a particular type of airframe for whatever reason. And at that point, who cares about freezes?

This sounds like something out of a junior high student government negotiation. If this is true, I don't want to hear anything about rep recall. This is why we keep failing. It's top down unionism and we just keep replacing the bottom. I want these people off the MEC, forever. And I want their names publicly posted for humiliation. I would prefer them off the seniority list. They can go after that mgt job it looks like they want.

work, work, work, contract, work, work, work

I hope you meant 50% DOS with a 25% reduction in ps! Otherwise... what?!

A 50% reduc in ps would mean about $50k less for me in 2017... over $4k per month!

I was referring to 50% RATE reduction not 50% in dollars. And even in dollars, you must have some kind of W2 to expect 100k in PS.

Well I am bloated and arrogant. So, damn, you hit that nail on the head.

I will say that you have just mastered the basic tenets of crisis management / counter-intel. Deny, obfuscate and counter-accuse. Well done.

Now IF you in fact are talking to your reps about 1. AA pay scales and 2. Release of survey results....you would have already posted, as I respectfully requested you do, what they said about those two items. Any answer they might give is neither privileged nor does it destroy anyone's anonymity.

From where I am sitting you are waging a war with an unseen enemy. Part real and part imagined. The problem is that you seem to be waging this war without actual intelligence. Or rather, intelligence that is being handed to you about troop movements in the Crimean War and you are fighting house to house outside Ramadi. Until you have actual intel from the war we are fighting, from the troops themselves (YOUR LEC reps)...you are a paper general fighting an imagined enemy.

Without backing up your haranguing diatribes with what is happening NOW, right now...with information from your LEC Reps; you push yourself farther and farther into irrelevance.

You are a large piece of poster board, ball of twine and a magic marker away from being "THE END IS NEAR" guy standing on the local street corner.

If you provide information you are just grumpy pilot guy. Much more credible then the end is nigh dude.

Because I think there's a lot fewer moves like you described that have to do with the hourly rate differential than it has to do with bases, relative seniority, type of flying and of course upgrades (which would be the case regardless).

We're already largely banded anyway, into 2 distinct tiers. All other airframe differentials are pretty small from plane to plane until you crack the 330 barrier. Even the 320 pilot in your example will only gain several grand a year going to the 737, and in order to get that they have to spend the preverbal 2 months-ish on VA ave and in many to most cases will end up losing relative seniority, which is the equivalent of money in many ways.

For every 320 pilot willing to go through training for that amount of a raise, there is a pilot in something else that will make a move to the 320 from something else if the 320 offers a better overall relative seniority...especially if the payrates are all the same.

LBP will probably cut down on some movement in the long run, but will generate more in the short to medium term, and it will never stop "sport bidding" as well as people bouncing around to imprive their situation. Now maybe LBP with home basing and a mandatory one month on reserve per year for everyone, or A-days like the FA's get, etc, coupled with longer freezes could slam the brakes on fleet changes, but we all know that's never going to happen.

That said, it makes sense to band a little bit more. MD88/90 paying less than the smaller or same sized A319/320/737 is a bit silly. But there is simply no way to morph into UPS or Lufthansa overnight. It will take a long time, and during that time the hazzards of unintended consequences could very well make things worse.