Don't think we have the option not to follow it.

Correct.

We can not self medicate, but then you have guys at work that are sick.

Catch 22.

Question from a new guy still learning the ropes: I was awarded a GS this morning for tomorrow. We blocked in tonight at 10:15 until report tomorrow morning. Thought I was good to go......until I happened to check iCrew to look at something else before I went to bed. Looked at the daily report and noticed someone else flying the GS I was awarded.

Called sched and they told me that they always add in 30 minutes for "debrief" which put me under the 10 hours to report. Is this standard and/or required? I got credit for the trip, but only at single pay rate (would much rather have flown it at GS rate).

Second question: had I not looked at iCrew for random reason, I wouldn't have noticed until trying to sign in tomorrow AM that I had the trip pulled. Is that standard? Seems kinda sketchy to me. Shouldn't they have at least called?

OK, now I am confused, wouldn't a 50% rate reduction by definition equal a 50% reduction in dollars?

And think about the numbers. Last year we received about 16% in PS. This year we are expecting around 22%. If you will accept a 50% cut in PS for a 15% raise you are basically saying you will accept a 4% paradise.

22/2= 11%. Would you really agree to a 15% pay raise if it cost us 11%?

This is the problem with cutting PS - the potential gains are mind boggling. Last year we received 16%, we are estimating about 22% this year. Lets say we get 25% the following year. If we take a 50% hit in PS it could equal a 12.5% pay cut So even if we received a 20% raise on day 1 it could equate to a mere 7.5% effective pay raise.

Who here would be satisfied with 7.5%?

One final point. We all understand profits go up and come down. Profits may be great for the a year or two and then plummet. Well, keep in mind we are basically looking at a three year deal. I really don't care what may happen in five or ten years - that will be two or more contracts down the road.


Scoop

Went to a doc last year and got the note but he didn't put reason on note. Instead of writing my own symptoms down, I sent pics of meds prescribed. Verification rejected for not having reason for sick call. So we have non-AME prescribing downing drugs according to FAA but not good enough to "verify". I would think an "IAW FAA medical regulations..." statement would suffice.
It really is silly we are treated like school children.

ALPA should be going to the Supreme Court to protect our mediacal privacy. Instead, they are helping management violate the law.

How secure do you think the companies records of our verifications are? Imagine when they are hacked are posted on the Internet?

Without referencing the contract, I'm sure I will get some of this wrong. I've had it happen to me too though.

In reality, the greenslip isn't "yours" until (I think) 2 hours prior to report. They can find someone else and for some reason they don't notify you. I have all the SMS settings set up and not known they pulled a greenie. Once I was actually sitting on my commuter flt to go up the night prior and got a text from a friend that my GS had been pulled...no call, no suit up pay, nothing.

If you are getting single pay and don't have to fly it, keep your head low and hope it stays on there.

Certainly someone will chime in with references and the contractual language, but yeah, consider yourself lucky that you discovered it.

Every time I get a prescription I call ALPA aeromed and have the actual flight doctor on duty tell me how long I have to wait before going back to flying. I document the date, time and name of the doctor and then plan my return to work appropriately.

Thanks Scambo! Appreciate the words. Just trying to see if there was something I did that prevented me from getting the notification or if this routinely happens.

This is both standard and required. Although our FDP ends at block in, we do not begin our rest until 30 minutes later, when the PWA says that we are released after block in. That means that you would have had less than 10:00 rest prior to the GS trip.

Even more bad news -- unless Crew Scheduling agreed to release you, you have 23 K. recovery obligations for the GS trip, as you were removed from it due to IROPS (application of FARs). The good news is that you'll get GS pay for any recovery flying you perform.

Yes, they should have.