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full of luv 07-01-2015 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1919383)
Anything 'off airway' in China is owned by the People's Army. Deviating is rarely approved. That said, they should have declared an emergency and turned anyway. That could have easily ended a lot worse.

Ask KAL007 what can happen when you bust the communists airspace! In those countries, they can shoot first and investigate later.

Carl Spackler 07-01-2015 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1919450)
Ask KAL007 what can happen when you bust the communists airspace! In those countries, they can shoot first and investigate later.

I cannot believe we're even having this conversation. In ALL cases, declare an emergency and deviate. IN ALL CASES. KAL007 was an unknown aircraft to the Russians and was not in radio contact at all. ICAO protocols are clear about aircraft that have declared an emergency. An emergency aircraft will NOT be shot down.

Never fly through a thunderstorm people...NEVER!

Carl

full of luv 07-01-2015 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1919468)
I cannot believe we're even having this conversation. In ALL cases, declare an emergency and deviate. IN ALL CASES. KAL007 was an unknown aircraft to the Russians and was not in radio contact at all. ICAO protocols are clear about aircraft that have declared an emergency. An emergency aircraft will NOT be shot down.

Never fly through a thunderstorm people...NEVER!

Carl

Carl,
Of course, KAL comment was tongue in cheek. It was a tragic overreaction to cold war military needling and hundreds of people lost their lives.
Thankfully in this case the Boeing took the brunt of the damage and still safely delivered it's pax to the destination.

gloopy 07-01-2015 08:23 AM

I wonder how well the new gen carbon epoxy paper mache planes will stand up to the internal dynamics of a severe thunderstorm. In other applications the materials are pretty strong right up til their limits then tend to completely shatter like safety glass. Hopefully we'll never find out.

Justdoinmyjob 07-01-2015 09:17 AM

Thought for the day:
Why do some captains feel it necessary to take the aircraft on landing rollout while we're still somewhere around 100-120 kts?

Mesabah 07-01-2015 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1919540)
Thought for the day:
Why do some captains feel it necessary to take the aircraft on landing rollout while we're still somewhere around 100-120 kts?

Sometimes I do this because I don't want to be transitioning controls, and taking instructions from the tower at the same time. If it's in a hub where I know where I'm going anyway, then it's no big deal.

Sputnik 07-01-2015 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1919498)
I wonder how well the new gen carbon epoxy paper mache planes will stand up to the internal dynamics of a severe thunderstorm. In other applications the materials are pretty strong right up til their limits then tend to completely shatter like safety glass. Hopefully we'll never find out.

Generally speaking, should do just fine. Quite possibly better. Repairs are where the difference can get scary (cost/complexity). Though sounds like they wont be repairing this one anyway.

CheapTrick 07-01-2015 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1919540)
Thought for the day:
Why do some captains feel it necessary to take the aircraft on landing rollout while we're still somewhere around 100-120 kts?

Why wouldn't you just ask him or her? What would be wrong about that?

paxhauler85 07-01-2015 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1919547)
Sometimes I do this because I don't want to be transitioning controls, and taking instructions from the tower at the same time. If it's in a hub where I know where I'm going anyway, then it's no big deal.

Do the pedals not work on the right side of the CRJ? Short of making a 90 degree turn, an F/O should be able to perform any other taxi maneuver.

Mesabah 07-01-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1919853)
Do the pedals not work on the right side of the CRJ? Short of making a 90 degree turn, an F/O should be able to perform any other taxi maneuver.

It's my personal preference to be in control of the aircraft while the FO receives the taxi instructions, that's all.


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