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GogglesPisano 07-01-2015 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1919936)
It's my personal preference to be in control of the aircraft while the FO receives the taxi instructions, that's all.

Or you could let the FO continue to fly the aircraft and handle the radios yourself.

FmrFreightDog 07-01-2015 05:53 PM

Never mind. Deleted.

Justdoinmyjob 07-01-2015 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1919644)
Why wouldn't you just ask him or her? What would be wrong about that?

Oh, I did. Turns out he just doesn't trust FOs with over 6000 hours in type. More importantly, I have seen an uptick in this and I was just wondering if it's some new unwritten captain thing. I know I'm already going to be in trouble on the M88 when I keep starting the APU early for comfort.

Denny Crane 07-01-2015 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1920235)
Oh, I did. Turns out he just doesn't trust FOs with over 6000 hours in type. More importantly, I have seen an uptick in this and I was just wondering if it's some new unwritten captain thing. I know I'm already going to be in trouble on the M88 when I keep starting the APU early for comfort.

Sounds like it's time for you to upgrade!:eek::)

Denny

satchip 07-02-2015 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1919540)
Thought for the day:
Why do some captains feel it necessary to take the aircraft on landing rollout while we're still somewhere around 100-120 kts?

Why the heck do you care when he takes the aircraft after landing? My hourly rate doesn't change after transfer of aircraft control.

Mesabah 07-02-2015 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1920053)
Or you could let the FO continue to fly the aircraft and handle the radios yourself.

Then the FO gets distracted, and misses the instructions.

Tinpusher007 07-02-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1920376)
Then the FO gets distracted, and misses the instructions.

Gotta disagree with you hear man, that "my controls" business 5 secs after touchdown doing 100kts with certain captains used to annoy the hell out of me. I can't remember it happening anytime recently or when I flew with you for that matter. Usually the only instruction when exiting the runway is "turn right/left and contact/monitor .9. The origin of this at Endeavor, Im told was because of carry over from the Saab in which the FO really didn't have much directional control of below about 80kts. But the same is not true in the jet. With all due respect to your personal preferences, during my brief stint as a 200 captain, I found it more practical to let the FO bring the aircraft to taxi speed before exiting the runway while I acknowledged the clearance (since I would be the one taxiing the airplane) and then transfer controls while we exit from a high speed turnoff or just before exiting if it requires a 90 degree turn. Just curious, is that your practice on a contaminated runway as well?

Mesabah 07-02-2015 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1920392)
Gotta disagree with you hear man, that "my controls" business 5 secs after touchdown doing 100kts with certain captains used to annoy the hell out of me. I can't remember it happening anytime recently or when I flew with you for that matter. Usually the only instruction when exiting the runway is "turn right/left and contact/monitor .9. The origin of this at Endeavor, Im told was because of carry over from the Saab in which the FO really didn't have much directional control of below about 80kts. But the same is not true in the jet. With all due respect to your personal preferences, during my brief stint as a 200 captain, I found it more practical to let the FO bring the aircraft to taxi speed before exiting the runway while I acknowledged the clearance (since I would be the one taxiing the airplane) and then transfer controls while we exit from a high speed turnoff or just before exiting if it requires a 90 degree turn. Just curious, is that your practice on a contaminated runway as well?

About 1-2 times out of 20, I will take control at the 90kts call, but only if at an unfamiliar airport vs taking it during turn off. Clearly, the "I don't trust the FO to brake" is something different.

Personally, I had no idea FO's cared when the captain took the controls, it never crossed my mind when I was an FO. Come to think of it, as an FO, I would transfer controls to the CA early, so I could write down the taxi instructions on paper.

MoonShot 07-02-2015 06:57 AM

As a FO, I usually give the captain the airplane about 80 knots. Seems to me it'd be easier for them to smoothly transition from straight ahead with some speed vs giving it to them on the high speed. Just makes things flow better in my opinion.

GogglesPisano 07-02-2015 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1920376)
Then the FO gets distracted, and misses the instructions.

I'll repeat. Why don't you handle the radios until there's a positive transfer of controls? Otherwise what's to stop you from getting distracted. Who are you flying with?:eek:


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