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Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877132)
I'd like to take a hypothetical month were the GS trigger is 72 hours, the bank limit is 77 hours, and my line is 74 hours. If I were to pick up a 2 day 10:30 GS that pays 21:00, would I be able to bank any of that time? Assuming the answer is "no", then is there any way other than just straight-pay white slipping above the bank limit to fill up my bank?
In your scenario, you have 74 hours of pay and credit, and the GS trip gives you an additional 10:30 double pay, no credit (i.e.,21 hours).
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877132)
...what if I only had 70 hours on my line prior to the GS? How many hours would I be paid for the month assuming I didn't have any hours already in the bank to fill up to the GS limit.
Bear in mind that you can borrow hours from the bank too, up to 20 hours per bid period normally but only 5 hours in a bid period in which you have flown a GS. In this case, you could borrow 2 hours to bring your pay and credit up to 72 hours. This would cause your entire GS trip to pay double pay, no credit. In essence, the 2 hours you borrowed from the bank would be worth 4 hours. |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877151)
Thanks guys, that helps. I agree Sailingfun, GSing is better than banking, but unfortunately my commute makes accepting most GS I'm offered impossible. Usually the only way I can make any kind of pay above my normal rate is to WS in advance so I can plan my commute, and then bank the hours to cash in at what will be a 40% pay raise from year one to year two. Not ideal but I have to work with what I've got :).
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1877150)
You sure about it being ALV? I would've put money on having to credit over 80, not ALV.
Don't have time right now, but a lot of this is laid out in the scheduling reference handbook. Open the PDF and search for "bank." Side note: I'd like to see us be able to add to the bank at a much lower threshold. There are months where I'd be willing to accept less pay in-month in order to fill my bank for later...crediting over 80 in any significant amount will wear you out. It's difficult to fill the bank up very quickly. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877166)
Keep in mind that banking hours to cash in at a higher rate later does not work out like most think. You are banking hours not pay. If you work one hour now and bank it the rate is the same as if you work that hour next year. Either way you work one hour. Banking hours is best used if you want to build a big block of time off at a later date.
You're better off buying vacation days. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877166)
Keep in mind that banking hours to cash in at a higher rate later does not work out like most think. You are banking hours not pay. If you work one hour now and bank it the rate is the same as if you work that hour next year. Either way you work one hour. Banking hours is best used if you want to build a big block of time off at a later date.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877166)
Keep in mind that banking hours to cash in at a higher rate later does not work out like most think. You are banking hours not pay. If you work one hour now and bank it the rate is the same as if you work that hour next year. Either way you work one hour. Banking hours is best used if you want to build a big block of time off at a later date.
When you withdraw an hour it is at your current rate, not your rate when it was deposited. If you make a bank deposit of one hour while you are on probation you can withdraw that same hour the next year at 2nd year pay. The best time to bank hours is if you are expecting an upgrade from FO to Captain. You can bank those hours at the FO payrate and withdraw them at Captain payrate. If you play it correctly, up to 60 hours of your time as an FO you could be making Captain pay. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877166)
Keep in mind that banking hours to cash in at a higher rate later does not work out like most think. You are banking hours not pay. If you work one hour now and bank it the rate is the same as if you work that hour next year. Either way you work one hour. Banking hours is best used if you want to build a big block of time off at a later date.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1877174)
I believe you cash up to the ALV+15 or max 82 hours, whichever is less.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1877174)
Exactly. It's not possible to cash out 40 hrs of bank at once unless you PD most of your trips. I don't have the contract in front of me, but I believe you cash up to the ALV+15 or max 82 hours, whichever is less. And if you GS you can't cash out more than 5 hours.
You're better off buying vacation days. You could personal drop your entire month and use the bank to still get paid. Assuming you had a 60 hour balance you could withdraw all of that and borrow 22 hours and you would get paid 82 hours without flying a single minute. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1877205)
Assuming you had a 60 hour balance you could withdraw all of that and borrow 12 hours and you would get paid 82 hours without flying a single minute.
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