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Still no dec sched awards.:( used to be able to backdoor it on 13th always, lately they barely make the contract limit time.

Does a day of long call count towards the 30 hours of rest in a 168 hour period? I am pretty sure the answer is no. I am currently in day 5 of 8 days of reserve. If the above answer is no, is it then true that I can not be assigned a trip that takes me beyond the 138 hours (168-30) of duty unless there's a 30 hour rest built into the trip?
Thanks for help.
FTS

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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1763100)

No. We were delayed 2 hours on Tuesday because a crew manned up and then it was found out that the FO did not have his 30 hour break.

Not sure who eventually figured it out but some lucky dude got a GS.

Scoop

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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1763100)

Long call does not count.

You need to be informed when your 30hr rest is before it happens.

Scheduling needs to assign you a rest period either on a trip ahead of you or on day 6, 7, or 8.

TEN

That new "FDR at the gate" policy has slipped to 1 Dec.

Well, that initiative was certainly well-implemented.

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1763114)

Long call does not count.

You need to be informed when your 30hr rest is before it happens.

Scheduling needs to assign you a rest period either on a trip ahead of you or on day 6, 7, or 8.

TEN

Thanks TEN and Scoop.

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Originally Posted by Smokey23 (Post 1762794)

Somebody help me out here (SWA employee). Why is your management apparently so hot to cut profit-sharing? I would think if anything they would be wanting more profitability-based compensation, as it is (from their perspective) nicely self-regulating through the good times and the bad? :confused:

Because by definition profits are the property of the shareholders (read any web search about Microsoft trying a few years ago how to get rid of a $50 billion plus cash hoard--you will notice that "profit sharing to employees" was not one of their options). Any profit sharing that goes to employees is in actuality paid from the shareholders to the employees. Many shareholders don't mind that on a small scale, as it hopefully makes for happier employees that generate more profits even with the profit-sharing than they would have without the program.

However when profit sharing is $1 billion plus--who would have ever imagined it?--Wall Street gets uptight and the Board of Directors (who represent the shareholders) gets a lot of pressure put on them to reduce the profit sharing to employees so that the shareholders can get it all via dividend or stock buyback.

Not saying that is how it should be, but how it is.

All 88A's out except ATL

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Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1763092)

Still no dec sched awards.:( used to be able to backdoor it on 13th always, lately they barely make the contract limit time.

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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1763100)

I believe u need 30 hrs rest AFTER 168 hrs of duty. Every 30 hrs or rest resets the 168 hr clock. It's somewhere in the notepads alpa published when this all started.

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Originally Posted by hammer189 (Post 1763140)

I believe u need 30 hrs rest AFTER 168 hrs of duty. Every 30 hrs or rest resets the 168 hr clock. It's somewhere in the notepads alpa published when this all started.

I don't believe that is correct. That equals 7 days of work before a day off and I don't believe that was the intent of the rule.