Future start ups will hopefully continue to get crushed. But VX, JB, Spirit and a couple others are stuck in permanent growth mode and will spam capacity domestically, at a likely increasing rate. Just wait til VX gets a billion in play IPO money to capacity dump and yield trasn with, not to mention the rest. The fake royal dual subsidized Gulf carriers and some Asian carriers will also spam capacity. Especially if they think (and why wouldn't they?) that the big 3 or 4 here lead by DAL will accomidate their growth by pulling down to preserve yields?

PS or not, this is a collision course with destiny that this current management team (at all the legacies) will have to face. Their current stratedgy or ducking and running and gifting capacity to fuel their competitor's growth will not work at all long term. It remains to be seen which ones, if any, have the executive talent to be up to the task. Especially when it will be a very expensve war, at least short-medium term, to fight. Its far more profitable in the short term to execute a losing stratedgy in the long run.

Because the company knows that Wall St knows that the company could get their friends across the table to take an increase in pay that when given a reduction in PS ends up meaning a bigger bottom line number for the company.

You somewhat miss the point of what I am saying. As we reach a sustained 15% profit margin we should introduce additional capacity into the system to insure that large amounts of startup capital don't flood into airlines. Trust me it will, it always does. I believe management focus on short term profits is going to bite Delta and the other big airlines in the not to distant future.

I disagree. The oligopoly with our 3 partners is strong and solid. It would take years to flood the market. All current players understand capacity discipline.

Our economy is hitting it's stride. More than 5 million Americans were hired in September alone. 2.5 million quit to go to higher paying jobs. I could go on and on and on, but the simple fact is demand will keep increasing domestically and we will be wildly profitable for years.

Why lower expectations Sailing? What is your goal? Maybe if Delta makes "one trillion dollars" you and Austin Powers will think we deserve to restore our concessions.

Be careful with comments like that. You are mostly talking to a FAUX News audience. Prepare for Carl to quickly chime in with his GDP graphs. :rolleyes:

Careful, Fixed news crowd can't handle those facts! No matter what, the recovery from W's wreck less economic disaster will never get proper credit. Just better to cloud the issues with Faux agendas. :rolleyes:

The company is on the road right now touting the benefits of profit sharing and it is a key component of our success vs our competitors. There is pressure from wall street to do all sorts of things, but our mgmt. is very good at saying no. I'd be very surprised to see an initiative in this regard, unless we ourselves initiate it.

Fear:

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Yep. Why we even have anyone that thinks we need to "trade" anything is crazy. Leave PS alone, up the hourly rates and DB contribution, go to 5:15 min per day including vacation and training days. If oil keeps sliding and stays low for a few years, we will see some years with close to 10B in profits.

Hey quick question, those of you that are recommending people are you doing the email AND the airline apps rec or is that looked down upon?