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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1877077)
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I am trying to understand a little more about GS pay. I'd like to take a hypothetical month were the GS trigger is 72 hours, the bank limit is 77 hours, and my line is 74 hours. If I were to pick up a 2 day 10:30 GS that pays 21:00, would I be able to bank any of that time? Assuming the answer is "no", then is there any way other than just straight-pay white slipping above the bank limit to fill up my bank?
edit: as a follow-up (ignore bank aspect for this question, just curious about total pay), what if I only had 70 hours on my line prior to the GS? How many hours would I be paid for the month assuming I didn't have any hours already in the bank to fill up to the GS limit. |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877132)
I am trying to understand a little more about GS pay. I'd like to take a hypothetical month were the GS trigger is 72 hours, the bank limit is 77 hours, and my line is 74 hours. If I were to pick up a 2 day 10:30 GS that pays 21:00, would I be able to bank any of that time? Assuming the answer is "no", then is there any way other than just straight-pay white slipping above the bank limit to fill up my bank?
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1877133)
If I remember correctly, if you are negative in the bank, automatically 5 hours will get deducted and put in the bank. You can also pay back your negative bank, you just have to make the election in DBMS.
As I recall the one time I added to my bank, I was able to do so the moment the trip that put me over the bank limit showed up on my line (but that was all straight pay, no GS in that month). |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877135)
Hmm, well right now I've got a few hours in the bank and wanted to add more. When I go to the bank page it is showing a monthly deficit and not letting me add (which is why I'm asking these questions). Either the system is correct and I don't understand it, the system is incorrect and I need to call somebody to fix it, or perhaps I'm just trying too early in the month.
As I recall the one time I added to my bank, I was able to do so the moment the trip that put me over the bank limit showed up on my line. |
Originally Posted by Sputnik
(Post 1877137)
I don't think you can put anything in the bank until you go over 80 hours. So if you have a 74 hour line, it's not going to let you fill up. If you GS over 80, should be good. Though I'm not understanding the bank limit you referenced.
credit + res guar + other guar = sub ttl credit - payback neg bank + bank opt 1 awd = ttl credit bank opt 1 limit. For me, that bank opt 1 limit is 77:00, not 80. I might just have to call alpa on Monday, I really have no idea what that page means or even how I am paid. I am surprised at the amount of my paycheck every single time it gets deposited. Sometimes I get more than I thought, sometimes less, but never what I thought I would get. |
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
(Post 1877127)
As it should be. The CRJ-900's and E-195's need to be at Delta flown by Delta pilots as well. I like the 717, and hope to fly it soon. It's a good airplane. But I would rather fly a CRJ-900 at Delta, or a Cessna 152 for that matter, than have any Delta branded aircraft flown by any non Delta pilots. It's the only way to truly protect the integrity of the Delta name.
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 1877135)
Hmm, well right now I've got a few hours in the bank and wanted to add more. When I go to the bank page it is showing a monthly deficit and not letting me add (which is why I'm asking these questions). Either the system is correct and I don't understand it, the system is incorrect and I need to call somebody to fix it, or perhaps I'm just trying too early in the month.
As I recall the one time I added to my bank, I was able to do so the moment the trip that put me over the bank limit showed up on my line (but that was all straight pay, no GS in that month). If they are short pilots and giving out GS's its not smart to worry about the bank. Build your line to the minimum allowed and GS any additional flying. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877149)
Only credit time above the ALV can be added to the bank. A GS is pay no credit so can't go in the bank. You need to build your initial line above the ALV or WS above the ALV in order to make a bank deposit. If you have a negative bank they will automatically take up to 5 hours above the ALV to pay it off.
You sure about it being ALV? I would've put money on having to credit over 80, not ALV. Don't have time right now, but a lot of this is laid out in the scheduling reference handbook. Open the PDF and search for "bank." Side note: I'd like to see us be able to add to the bank at a much lower threshold. There are months where I'd be willing to accept less pay in-month in order to fill my bank for later...crediting over 80 in any significant amount will wear you out. It's difficult to fill the bank up very quickly. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1877149)
Only credit time above the ALV can be added to the bank. A GS is pay no credit so can't go in the bank. You need to build your initial line above the ALV or WS above the ALV in order to make a bank deposit. If you have a negative bank they will automatically take up to 5 hours above the ALV to pay it off.
If they are short pilots and giving out GS's its not smart to worry about the bank. Build your line to the minimum allowed and GS any additional flying.
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1877150)
You sure about it being ALV? I would've put money on having to credit over 80, not ALV.
Don't have time right now, but a lot of this is laid out in the scheduling reference handbook. Open the PDF and search for "bank." Side note: I'd like to see us be able to add to the bank at a much lower threshold. There are months where I'd be willing to accept less pay in-month in order to fill my bank for later...crediting over 80 in any significant amount will wear you out. It's difficult to fill the bank up very quickly. |
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