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Duder,

I thought the exact same thing! I'm not anti-DALPA, but I cringe when I hear or read this statement ("be willing to say yes to a TA"), without the follow on " . . . and don't be afraid to say "NO" if the deal is not acceptable".

I definitely feel as if we are experiencing Phase 1 of expectation management, but will keep an open mind until I see the TA.

- Q

FlyZ	04-21-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwyjibo (Post 1866285)

Agreed. Also, remember they led off the process by saying we are not in a rush - we are willing to wait for the right deal. Now look at items 1-3 of the communique:

1. Hurry

2. Hurry

3. Hurry

The only words missing are "fleeting opportunity," but they might be around the corner.

boog123

04-21-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duder (Post 1866281)

Anybody else read the Daily Fastread from the MEC that was sent out today? I seriously thought it was a joke as I read. They talk about 2 experts that briefed the MEC earlier and specifically said:

7. Develop the ability to say yes:
· A tentative agreement is not proof that a better offer is available.

Ahhhh....I don't think there has ever been that problem here. Please call your reps and tell them otherwise. Develop the ability to say NO! A TA also doesn't mean that it's the best offer either! I want to believe in our reps but this just makes me want to bash my head against the wall.

Rant over:mad:

Has there ever been a time when there wasn't a "yes"?

Purple Drank

04-21-2015 06:24 PM

Anyone want to bet against the company/dalpa using those 777s as fodder to push C15? No?

Ssdd.

scambo1

04-21-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1866307)

Anyone want to bet against the company/dalpa using those 777s as fodder to push C15? No?

Ssdd.

DALPA would NEVER fall for that. Ever!:rolleyes:

hockeypilot44

04-21-2015 06:39 PM

I feel like the company dropped some concessions on the table (probably in relation to sick leave) and our negotiators have decided to accept them. Whatever it is, I don't feel good about it. Sounds like we should learn to say "no."

sailingfun

04-21-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1866314)

DALPA would NEVER fall for that. Ever!:rolleyes:

The last time they considered fleet restructuring in the contract it turned out so poorly for us. Nothing they said came true!

I thought however according to the forum it was going to be the A350/787 buy they held over our heads!

RockyBoy

04-21-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1866324)

Be better to fall for an A350/787 deal than a 717/RJ deal.....wait.....:eek:

forgot to bid

04-21-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1866324)

no TA yet so they still got time.

scambo1

04-21-2015 06:56 PM