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How many of you guys have kids that want to be Delta pilots? It's probably a good idea to take advantage of the pilot shortage at DCI, and get Delta to pay for your kid's training, and education.
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Originally Posted by contrails
(Post 1866937)
Consider the full spectrum:
Consecutive nights away Holidays Night work All at once, for many. That is not the usual 9-5 job, and that's without even considering the training/certificates and skills/experience required, in addition to the consequences of mistakes or poor judgement which put the responsibilities of the profession at the highest tier: those vocations that can result in death of the employee and customers, in addition to possible equipment loss (airplane) and possible property damage. "What are you doing?" he asked (as I was moving all his crap out of my seat). "I'm taking my break." says me. "Why do you get a Break?" "The FAA requires us to add one pilot, and each of us needs to take a break, on every flight over 8 hours." I tell him. "I work over 8 hours every day, and I NEVER get a Break!" says the suit. "And how many people DIE, when you make a mistake at your job?" says this smart *** F/O. He got quiet after that, and I almost got some rest. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1866986)
How many of you guys have kids that want to be Delta pilots? It's probably a good idea to take advantage of the pilot shortage at DCI, and get Delta to pay for your kid's training, and education.
They did like to fly in my Cub, back when I could afford one, pre 2004. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1866929)
Lots of professions spend lots of nights away. That argument won't fly at any negotiating table, which is the only place that it matters.
Doctors spend a lot of time away from home. Ask a surgeon. Obgyns have horrible schedules too. I know the one who delivered our kids was basically on short call at the nurses station all night. We need to focus on saying yes and stop trying to point out the cost of us screwing up. |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1866795)
Learn to say Yes! Straight from MD.
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Originally Posted by NERD
(Post 1866727)
Sent this info to one of my reps. His response was that nothing on pay has been discussed yet. I asked further about the PS, Scope(JVs), and sick changes. Again, haven't been discussed. So either he's not telling the truth, or someone is using MSPFLYER to spread misinformation or he blended his opinion in with the intel he got to stir up the troops. Hopefully the latter.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1867007)
This isn't accurate. We never start out asking for 30%.
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1866857)
Yep, I got a rock! I was out for over 6.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1867005)
Hell, there are management types at this airline that spend lots of nights away and on phones and email and are never really home.
Doctors spend a lot of time away from home. Ask a surgeon. Obgyns have horrible schedules too. I know the one who delivered our kids was basically on short call at the nurses station all night. We need to focus on saying yes and stop trying to point out the cost of us screwing up. |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1867016)
OK, Timbo's video had me laughing pretty good, but that was perfect!
ALPA: Yes, I agree. Would be funny if it weren't so sad. Carl |
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