Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Ha...now we have a DeltaNet article about how we are the highest paid in the industry and the American guys want to be paid like us. I think this may be the first time RA has a fight to get a contract done on time.

Do any of your friends include bonus money or profit sharing in the amount they get paid? I ask my friends in other industries what they make and they always tell me that bonus money and profit sharing is not considered income. Why should we be any different?

RockyBoy

11-13-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1763258)

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Herkflyr

11-13-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1763341)

So if you earned $1 million in PS you wouldn't consider that income? The IRS would beg to differ.

scambo1

11-13-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1763083)

Hey quick question, those of you that are recommending people are you doing the email AND the airline apps rec or is that looked down upon?

Brocc,
I'd answer you, but then I'd be wrong and get called out for it.:eek:

It's been awhile (hear that Boomer), but you use your delta email account and somehow it links with the airline apps. I think you have to give your dal email to the person you are recommending, and they input it somewhere on air app, then you get a template that is the rec letter to dal and air apps...if memory serves.

Carl Spackler

11-13-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1763205)

ASAPs are driving these changes.

My prediction is that ASAP's will also drive the change back to a more silent cockpit. Constant chatter has been tried before and it leads to the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome whereby important callouts highlighting the non-normal are lost in a sea of normal callouts.

No matter how well intentioned, procedures and callouts need to be streamlined to make compliance achievable. If they are so numerous that even pilots who want to comply can't get it all correct, it can lead to people throwing up their hands in frustration and stop even trying to comply.

If the average line pilot can't get the procedures and callouts correct on a line check, it's probably not the fault of the line pilot.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-13-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1763232)

Well, I can solve the BOD's problem. If they have a problem with large profit sharing payouts and can't stand Wall Street's pressure, they need to prepare themselves to write some pretty massive paychecks. They aren't going to get their cake and eat it, too. Let's start with 25% and go from there. I can think of all kinds of creative ways to help them with their dilemma.

Unfortunately, so can DALPA.

Carl

RockyBoy

11-13-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1763351)

So if you earned $1 million in PS you wouldn't consider that income? The IRS would beg to differ.

Yes I would. That isn't the point. When you ask them how much they make they say $100,000. They don't say $100,000 plus $15,000 in profit sharing and $1,200 in bonus money like we are being conditioned to do. They just don't include those amounts in their compensation package when they figure what they make even though they pay taxes on it.

Why should we all be trained to figure our hourly rates should be less because we get profit sharing?

newKnow

11-13-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1763174)

Why are we doing this anyway? What's wrong with signing it in the cockpit? On a related note, is it just me or are we drifting towards checking, verifying and confirming EVERYTHING in the cockpit?!?!?!?!?!? My last 2 F/O's (one a new hire) asked me "how's this look" on a simple speed change in the FMS! And do we need to verify a runway extension?(it's not moving the jet!) Sure seems like we're getting overly "cautious" and slipping to a VERY rigid cockpit. S acronym's anyone:(

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