Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1888588)

Gentleman,

You all seem to be forgetting something very, very important. If we drag out this negotiation we can not only expect very nice profit sharing increases, but we will also receive annual pay raises.

We just received a .55 per cent raise - not much but remember UAL and AMR have contracts with raises coming for the next few years. Don't forget the little known codicil (thanks Dean Wormer :D) in the DAL Pilots contract that matches the average pay of AMR and UAL.

Now that average just passed barely us, but each year they get raises so it wouldn't surprise me if we get a 2-3% raise every year even if we are parked.

No need to rush anything boys. Either we hit a grand-slam or we wait it out enjoying pay raises and increased profit sharing.

Happy Memorial Day!

Scoop :)

Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1888605)

That ONLY happens IF others in the company get a raise like they did this year.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1888588)

Gentleman,

You all seem to be forgetting something very, very important. If we drag out this negotiation we can not only expect very nice profit sharing increases, but we will also receive annual pay raises.

We just received a .55 per cent raise - not much but remember UAL and AMR have contracts with raises coming for the next few years. Don't forget the little known codicil (thanks Dean Wormer :D) in the DAL Pilots contract that matches the average pay of AMR and UAL.

Now that average just passed barely us, but each year they get raises so it wouldn't surprise me if we get a 2-3% raise every year even if we are parked.

No need to rush anything boys. Either we hit a grand-slam or we wait it out enjoying pay raises and increased profit sharing.

Happy Memorial Day!

Scoop :)

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1888606)

Correct, I am assuming the risk of other employee groups unionizing will make it inevitable. Probably, a bad assumption on my part, with us being in section 6 anything is possible.

Scoop

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1888596)

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1888444)

No I mean section 3, payrates, in the contract. I want the union to negotiate section 3 then if the company wants to talk PS we can talk but I hate the way they did the payrates in C2012. 4/8.5/3/3 but they would have been less if we had not given up profit sharing? I do believe most Delta pilots would have voted no to say a 0(that was early anyway)/6.5/3/3 or even an 8.5/3/3. Funny how many Dalpa guys were in the lounge saying don't worry we won't ever see those 3/3 with a wink like we were going to get another bite at the apple before they took effect.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1888606)

Correct, I am assuming the risk of other employee groups unionizing will make it inevitable. Probably, a bad assumption on my part, with us being in section 6 anything is possible.

Scoop

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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1888800)

Ummmmm the only group that is even remotely talking about unionizing are the FAs, and the group that was trying to do so recently punted. I don't believe there is anything on the visible horizon, so do you really want to hang your hat on that?

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1888800)

Ummmmm the only group that is even remotely talking about unionizing are the FAs, and the group that was trying to do so recently punted. I don't believe there is anything on the visible horizon, so do you really want to hang your hat on that?