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HTBH 03-17-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 2090552)
If the rules auditor says you can drop the redeye and add the trip from open time, you should be able to do so via Swap With the Pot. Since they cover the same footprint, the reserves required wouldn't matter and the swap would go through as long as you're legal for the new trip.


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Will definitely try to do that. Just worried, based on seniority, that I'll lose out on that if somebody else tried to modify in a similar way. And reserve coverage is already capped (of course...).

Either trip puts me in the LCW, there are no 30 hour conflicts, etc..etc.. It shows it was originally awarded to a guy junior to me in a "coverage award from shadow bid". Which I will fully admit I don't understand the shadow bid stuff. But since it isn't a spillover trip, was in the trip pack, and was available for pick up....I'm not sure how it ended up on somebody's schedule who has less seniority.

Humboldt 03-17-2016 10:31 AM

I have a DH leg to NRT later this month. How do you make a deviation from DH reservation if you want to fly to NRT out of a base other than your own?

Crew Scheduling said I could do it myself in Travelnet through Crew Travel but that option only lets me sign up for the original assigned DH leg. If I sign up for the original DH, the option to modify reservation is not available. I don't see any other way to do it. You can't use "Company Business" travel either, correct?

Thanks for any insight.

Humboldt

53x11 03-17-2016 11:10 AM

Company Business

As long as it doesn't cause overbooking per the contract.

scambo1 03-17-2016 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 2090732)
I have a DH leg to NRT later this month. How do you make a deviation from DH reservation if you want to fly to NRT out of a base other than your own?

Crew Scheduling said I could do it myself in Travelnet through Crew Travel but that option only lets me sign up for the original assigned DH leg. If I sign up for the original DH, the option to modify reservation is not available. I don't see any other way to do it. You can't use "Company Business" travel either, correct?

Thanks for any insight.

Humboldt

Company business pull down - I always go to the full HTML site.

Wherever to NRT and date

Search

Pick the one you want

Book it

Wait for the email

Double check you didn't screw up

Call crew scheduling within 24 hrs of your original deadhead tell them you're deviating

Show up for flight

Get on plane

Get squished between two fat people for12 hours

Arrive in NRT exhausted

Run to crew planning

Meet up with your crew

Find out its your leg

...

badflaps 03-17-2016 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2090791)
Company business pull down - I always go to the full HTML site.

Wherever to NRT and date

Search

Pick the one you want

Book it

Wait for the email

Double check you didn't screw up

Call crew scheduling within 24 hrs of your original deadhead tell them you're deviating

Show up for flight

Get on plane

Get squished between two fat people for12 hours

Arrive in NRT exhausted

Run to crew planning

Meet up with your crew

Find out its your leg

...

International sounds fun....

zippinbye 03-17-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2090791)
Company business pull down - I always go to the full HTML site.

Wherever to NRT and date

Search

Pick the one you want

Book it

Wait for the email

Double check you didn't screw up

Call crew scheduling within 24 hrs of your original deadhead tell them you're deviating

Show up for flight

Get on plane

Get squished between two fat people for12 hours

Arrive in NRT exhausted

Run to crew planning

Meet up with your crew

Find out its your leg

...

If you are squished between two fat people, you used the wrong jet bridge or turned right when you should have turned left. Plus you probably missed your chance to board first, when Sky Priority was called. No worries, boarding with the masses didn't cause you to miss any free cocktails in the Economy Cabin pre-departure service; because that's not a thing. More Bombay Saphire for the folks surrounding your empty lie flat seat up front. BTW, the flying pilots will enjoy that as a break seat or dining spot. And since you were oblivious to your boarding card stating Business Class, you probably missed step one after passing through KCM: tasty appetizers and drinks in the Sky Club, because "you somebody" for that leg at least.

Or, you could do it right, and avoid said oversight. Arrive in Japan rested from pampering, and head to the Radission for continued time zone acclimation.

Much of that in jest, but seriously, overwater DH deviation is one of the bonuses built for enjoyment. Take advantage. Iron man same day deviation is not for the faint of heart. If your push returns to the gate, you're missing your NRT outbound. I'd say 3/4 of the time gate returns still operate, but many hours behind schedule - sometimes after a crew rest. I've done same day in a bind, but there's not much "sit back, relax and enjoy your flight." Save the bonus day off for the trip home if you're blessed with that too (XCM menu for that booking).

Humboldt 03-17-2016 12:17 PM

scambo1,

Thanks for the info and the laugh!

Humboldt

bohicagain 03-17-2016 06:16 PM

Hypothetically if someone was looking into thinking about moving to NYC.
Where should one look at to live with a family?
Is there a Peach Tree City type of place with plethora of pilots?

WhatNow 03-17-2016 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 2090791)
Company business pull down - I always go to the full HTML site.

Wherever to NRT and date

Search

Pick the one you want

Book it

Wait for the email

Double check you didn't screw up

Call crew scheduling within 24 hrs of your original deadhead tell them you're deviating

Show up for flight

Get on plane

Get squished between two fat people for12 hours

Arrive in NRT exhausted

Run to crew planning

Meet up with your crew

Find out its your leg

...

I know you are kidding about deadheading over and then turning right around with no rest and flying home. No one would put a Captain in the position of having to make a tough decision to cancel with a unrested crewmember.
The coach seat part however means you don't know the contract. Please hold the companies feet to the fire and enforce the contract.

captkdobbs 03-17-2016 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2091100)
I know your kidding about deadheading over and then turning right around with no rest and flying home. The coach seat part however means you don't know the contract. Please hold the companies feet to the fire and enforce the contract.

Unless I am misunderstanding the booking process, if you deviate, there have to be business class seats available for you to book them. If there are no BC seats available, you CAN still deviate, but you've got to take an available seat (i.e. coach). You can't bump paying business class pax to get the BC seat on a deviate DH.

Personally, I'll iron man a back end if there are BC seats available, but if not, ...Radisson, here I come. To me, it's not worth getting 'squished between two fat people for 12 hours' to get home exhausted. (thanks for the visual scambo1 :eek:)


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