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Old 12-30-2009, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Burn;
It is on my DVR.

No my wife told me to bid A positions. I am sure that I may never see it by the next bid but who cares

For those of you that are keeping count.

AS soon.
JAL should be ours
100 seater shortly
new wide bodies
base closure
one if not two new base openings in 2010.
Old base will be getting lots of flights soon

When all of this comes out in short order it will make your heads swim.

Happy New Year.


you would start this before u fly away for a few days!!!
guess u just trying to make everyone happy before the crap hits the fan!!

base closure?? guessing cvg
new bases ?? guam and ???
old base getting flights?? i would go with sea or bos
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
They are only allowed on 365 day conversion a year and they used it up for 2009 last winter on the DAL S side.
Understood. I guess what I'm asking is couldn't they post this year (tomorrow) and start the 365 conversion window next year (the 1st)?

As a side note: VERY intriguing list of possibilities you posted! These are interesting times indeed
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:16 PM
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Why the big push for SEA? Don't we already have a base there?
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
Why the big push for SEA? Don't we already have a base there?
Yes - A330s
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:22 PM
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Exactly, and the man did say 'former' base. PDX may have some traction, but I would bet BOS or DFW. Certainly not MSY, unfortunately
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The only way they will post the bid on the 31st is if the union will give them the 365 conversion for 2010 with a post date of 12.31.2010 If not you have to wait a day for them to post is
Actually the contract references the 210 and 365 day windows by dating of posting not date of closure. That makes this bid illegal. It should have posted 1 Jan and closed 11 Jan at the earliest. I think the union is giving them a pass on this but I know a couple pilots who are considering filing a grievance.
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Actually the contract references the 210 and 365 day windows by dating of posting not date of closure. That makes this bid illegal. It should have posted 1 Jan and closed 11 Jan at the earliest. I think the union is giving them a pass on this but I know a couple pilots who are considering filing a grievance.

I've heard of several other grievances as well... up to and including North guys suing to be award DTW 777 since it's "replacing" 744 flying. Ugh.
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:31 PM
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Just when you thought it was safe to back in the water......
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Do you mean stapling approx 500 NWA guys to the bottom, even behind the DAL newhires who started after the announcement?
That was actually the proposal from DALPA going into arbitration. When a attempt was made to reach a prenuptial agreement DALPA proposed a ration system. To quote "Our proposal is designed to reach a quick settlement. We have opened with a position designed to get a agreement. The proposed list keeps each pilot at both airlines within .05 percent of their premerger seniority."

NWA rejected that option and the much better joint contract that came with it. The DALPA opener was taken off the table for arbitration. It was made clear that no negotition positions prior to arbitration would carry forward into arbitration. Even in the second attempt to get a list the table position from DALPA did not staple 500 NWA pilots to the bottom. The final list from the arbitrator was however very very close to the original DALPA proposal. Almost mirrored it!
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