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Old 12-31-2009 | 11:14 AM
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Carl, how many Green book guys agree with you? How many law suits and grievances were filed?

Now when it comes to a Delta/Alaska merger SLI, I will be there right next to you fighting for 100 year fences, but don't blow sunshine up people's skirts.

Nothing against the Alaska guys, I'm sure they are swell but nothing other than a straight staple with 100 year fences on narrow bodies and 300 year fences on wide bodies. Anything less it will be world war. IMO
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yeah, but you should definitely know that the REAL UT isn't located in Austin... fo shame.
Hey TSquare, your alma mater and mine tonight bro. Bring it!
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Nothing against the Alaska guys, I'm sure they are swell but nothing other than a straight staple with 100 year fences on narrow bodies and 300 year fences on wide bodies. Anything less it will be world war. IMO
And if this doesn't happen, it will be a MISERABLE FAILURE!!

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Old 12-31-2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Nothing against the Alaska guys, I'm sure they are swell but nothing other than a straight staple with 100 year fences on narrow bodies and 300 year fences on wide bodies. Anything less it will be world war. IMO
Feeling a little melodramatic, are we?

Besides, fences don't work.
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
For goodness sakes would you zip it already. It was not a miserable failure. Date of hire with fences is how most mergers were done.

Man your dad really must have taken all this stuff home every day to give you such a jaded opinion considering you weren't even on our seniority list.

Carl

"WAS" how most mergers were done would be the appropriate tense.

He was very senior for a good part of his career....retired off the 400, spent 6 years on the DC-10. If he had such a jaded perspective, why would I have gotten into this career? Why would he be so supportive? Your reasoning isn't very sound...

He absolutely didn't take it home after every trip- and was very positive about his career and the way things turned out. However, from my outside looking in opinion, the 20 year fences and the way things were done pretty much defined exactly how not to do a merger.

From a logical perspective (long before this merger was squeezed out through long dark intestine of management), I consider weighted ratios to be the most clear cut way of integrating lists. How they are weighted is where the jumbo crayon comes in, though. Nothing is perfect.

Agree to disagree?
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I bet you see the results by noon tomorrow. Yes, I am giving a buffer due to New Year's Eve Cheer!
I am hearing on Monday AM now
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:42 AM
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I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Tell you what, call crew resources and ask. They are answering their phones.
Old 12-31-2009 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
A SLI with AS without tall fences will crush the bottom third of the Delta list, both North and South. I think they stopped hiring in 2006. The have people on furlough. It has the potential to be an AW/US situation.
I'm curious how you think integrating 1400 pilots into our 12,000 pilot group would crush the bottom 4,000 of our pilots. Could you explain?
Old 12-31-2009 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto
I'm curious how you think integrating 1400 pilots into our 12,000 pilot group would crush the bottom 4,000 of our pilots. Could you explain?
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I'm just guessing he is surmising this because of the seniority of our most senior 73N and A320 Capts (which equals AK's #1 Capt) then ratioed in by status and category (M88 and DC 9 are lower) with a dash of W-2 relativism thrown in. They've got furloughees that wouldn't count. Easy to come to the conclusion that it would mess with the bottom 4000 folks as a wag.

IMO its a pretty fair wag.

Scambo
Old 12-31-2009 | 12:18 PM
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Big picture.

We're about to RULE THE WORLD from a 4 story building in College Park Georgia. So as we take over the world, here's to hoping we've got the right stuff long term.



Pam. Everyone loves Pam.

So like I said, big picture. Happy SOC day, happy New Years Eve, happy MOAB posting Eve, happy good football day and eve, happy year of posts, happy cozy fogged in day in ATL, happy merger and here's to having the best airline ever... so damnit kum by ya, ya'll!

Now back to the hair pulling.
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