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forgot to bid 02-10-2010 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 761560)
Would like to see US Airways and Delta mec's have ALPA and AFL-CIO put pressure on Schulmer for his support of non-union airline.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 761516)
The government is as much or more to blame than the airlines. Airline managers are ruthless and will pay exactly what gets ppl to arrive at the doorstep, but the government needs to either open it up completely( no slots etc) or regulate the entrants and everything else so that what they deem a national asset can perform as such. Not a half working broken system that by the grace of god does not kill more people that it does.

Rant over!

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chuck h 02-10-2010 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 761394)

My name is Jim Smith. I am a pilot for a major airline. I love my family.
I don't allow them to fly on regional airlines or regional jets.
I have been in this industry for 25 years and in my judgment the regional airline industry is unsafe.

etc. etc. pilot qualifications, training, schedule pressures, pay. Spell it out.

I wonder if he lets his wife and kids ride in cars, downhill ski, or maybe talk on the phone during thunderstorms?

forgot to bid 02-10-2010 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 761593)
I would consider Auburn my first pick if you just want to be a pilot. Chicks, beer, football, more chicks, First rate nursing school=more chicks, first rate pharmacy school=more chicks...did I mention you can get your ratings there too!!!!

Thats true. You have a good chance of finding a girl/gal to support your flying habit. I guess thats as important as anything. So I guess I could rephrase my criticism- if you are already a nerd and want to be a nerdy pilot, don't put Auburn at the top of your list. :D

acl65pilot 02-10-2010 10:03 AM

Sobering Post Warning:::

The Last AE accounted for a lot of the LGA flying. Now that this flying is appearing that it will not be done until the DOT pulls its head out of its anus, something will need to be done.

All of the talk of new pilots and that need will probably be off the table until then. In fact, without that flying we have a sizable surplus for the summer.

Not saying what is going to happen, but the deck was taken back from the dealer, he took out the Aces and will make delta change their game plan. We will see how DAL deals with this.

I am more concerned about the LGA stuff that I ever was about the JAL and NRT issues.

formerdal 02-10-2010 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by chuck h (Post 761600)
I wonder if he lets his wife and kids ride in cars, downhill ski, or maybe talk on the phone during thunderstorms?


You missed the point.

chuck h 02-10-2010 10:09 AM

No, I didn't.

Superpilot92 02-10-2010 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 761602)
Sobering Post Warning:::

The Last AE accounted for a lot of the LGA flying. Now that this flying is appearing that it will not be done until the DOT pulls its head out of its anus, something will need to be done.

All of the talk of new pilots and that need will probably be off the table until then. In fact, without that flying we have a sizable surplus for the summer.

Not saying what is going to happen, but the deck was taken back from the dealer, he took out the Aces and will make delta change their game plan. We will see how DAL deals with this.

I am more concerned about the LGA stuff that I ever was about the JAL and NRT issues.

the potential increase in flying for us is nothing compared to the reigonals that were expecting to see increased flying. Also I suspect the company will move forward with something in regards to the slot swap but I expect them to fight this latest uber fail the gubment is trying to pull.

gotta love this industry full of drama......if its not one thing its another. Fortunately the pax loads seem to be recovering so its going to a busy summer either way. Things have already been tight and its not even spring break yet.

80ktsClamp 02-10-2010 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 761516)
I agree for the most part Bar;

ASA, OH, SKW, Mesaba, Pinnacle, Piedmont, etc are established regionals with very good training programs. Heck I would even submit that Freedom, and Mesa have good training as I know a few of their APD's.


Excellent post... however I know from first hand experience that Pinnacle has a horrendous training department and operation.

Just check the boxes and then you can blame whatever problems you have on the pilot. "Hey, we did what we were required!"

Just look at Trenary's (Pinnacle CEO) response to that victim's relative last night. The guy said to him (in so many words) "I'm glad we've been able to identify these issues and I hope some major progress can be made to fixing it."

Trenary's response? "We fixed it."



That right there illustrates the major issue we're dealing with.

satchip 02-10-2010 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 761593)
I would consider Auburn my first pick if you just want to be a pilot. Chicks, beer, football, more chicks, First rate nursing school=more chicks, first rate pharmacy school=more chicks...did I mention you can get your ratings there too!!!!

Oh the possibilities with this post...:rolleyes:

satchip 02-10-2010 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 761574)

Fantastic post.

There are a lot of smart good people who are going to look at this industry and walk away and you cannot blame them. And the ATP requirement is not going to solve the problem. If anything it'll make it worse in the years to come when hiring picks up. Probably wrong threat again but if mainline pilots are worried today about putting their famliies on a regional jet just wait a couple of years, it'll get a lot worse if progression to a personal ROI for good people doesn't dramatically improve.


FTB... tossing grenades while changing diapers.

Maybe not, but it will go a long way towards solving the problem. First, an ATP requirement will give these low quality entrants some valuable experience and development. Maybe it will weed out the real morons. Secondly, the laws of supply and demand work both ways. by limiting the supply the price will rise. This should in turn attract more qualified and smarter people.

I think our biggest problem will be the lack of military pilots in the future. The Air Force already makes more UAV pilots than real pilots. If the demand rises as predicted, you will see more pressure for the not quite qualified foreign cruise pilot license. That will be a disaster.


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