Businessweek: JAL Picks American, but Delta's Hardly a Loser in This Tussle

Waiting patiently for this article:

WSJ: Delta and USAir File Complaint with DOT/FAA

My wife is giving me that look because I am in the corner laughing my heinie off. You guys go to class? I thought you spent all day on tractors and knee deep in pig poop!

gotta love this rivalry...;)

I would fully expect Delta to come back at this decision. This is not something I see us taking lying down.

As for JAL. The neat little benefit that we got is this:
It would have probably cost out at least a billion if not two for the press we got for the last five months every night, every news cast about us and JAL. We are now known for pennies on the dollar versus what it would have cost us to get that kind of marketing visibility. We are now a household name in Japan, and AMR is out 1.4 billion.

Time to take that recognition for a run. We need to move quick because consumers minds are short and fickle.

I was amazed that you guys beat Texas. I heard Saban only dressed 74 players. I guess the other 25 that could dress themselves made the difference.

Plus for months it was JAL wants Delta, likes Delta, skyteam great, offers the world, and so on but it ended with JAL saying that while Delta was better AMR was a safer business decision.

I think if you wanted to fly around the world back in the 60s you went Pan Am. We should make sure that people think that again but this time about Delta.

We'd have a better terminal at JFK and some more A320s for the fleet!

Consider that at the time Comair lost flight 5191 they were on Delta's Certificate of Insurance.

I'm not sure the contractual transfer of liability means a whole lot in the running of an alter ego air carrier. I'm not sure the risk means a whole lot to the contracting parties, as long as the exposure is properly managed. As the President of my former employer said "we consider safety a given." Delta obvious wants it's passengers to have a safe and enjoyable flight, but they have risk managers and trust that they have done their job(s). They don't stay up at night worrying about this.

Scary Mary finally admitted the obvious and now calls herself a "Plaintiff's Attorney." Her idea has a lot more with securing another potential source for financial recovery than it does air safety, IMHO. ... and in many venues, the parties in the chain of commerce with the airline service can be sued and in some places held liable jointly and severally. This is one reason Texas is a popular place to bring aviation litigation.

The Passenger Bill of Rights also provides some perspective on this. The issue of responsibility for passenger handling during IROPS was ill defined and left the contracting carrier with a significant potential for loss. Rather than absorb these costs, they tried to hold passengers on the airplane, overnight, as needed to save money. This led to litigation long before the government stepped up to the plate to "fix" the problem. Airlines (not just Delta) had ample time to develop and implement policies which would have stopped that legislation in its tracks. IMHO the government only got involved because we failed to use common sense in the management of our outsourced flying.

Cue the music, same song, second verse. When it comes to jacking up the house, ALPA's going to have to do their (our) own heavy lifting on outsourcing.

Actually FTB, I have tipped a cow. She was sleeping standing up. In fact, it was on the way to the lav during my "potty break." She was a DAL FA. You are in fact correct...she did eat grass or whatever she could find in the forward galley and her own barf. I think she was Orlando based.

Umm, DC sucks, politicians of both sides suck, politicians by their very nature are unseemly and slimey. I prefer to sit on the sidelines and complain. That's my nature. That's all I got.;)

Colgan 3407 was insured by Delta as well. Ugh.