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Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 766212)
Seems we did both on this side of the Pacific. I like the idea of axing what you need to axe, and paying the remaining staff well to keep them motivated, but it's not something the competition (us, CAL, and UAL for example), have tried. We just wiped out a bunch of our people and the company raped and pillaged among the survivors.
Was JAL's only problem that they had overextended their network, or was it also comparatively high unit costs? If it's not just a network problem, and they are getting 5% in BK, and that indicates the limit of their ability to restructure, then maybe they're not doing it right. I know I'm thinking like management, which comes with its' own perverted brand of logic, but I don't see how 5% cuts are material. Maybe it's because our cut was one order of magnitude higher. |
Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 766191)
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then! ;) You should see the pic of the Raptor wallpapered with F-18 silhouettes. :D
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 766212)
Seems we did both on this side of the Pacific. I like the idea of axing what you need to axe, and paying the remaining staff well to keep them motivated, but it's not something the competition (us, CAL, and UAL for example), have tried. We just wiped out a bunch of our people and the company raped and pillaged among the survivors.
Was JAL's only problem that they had overextended their network, or was it also comparatively high unit costs? If it's not just a network problem, and they are getting 5% in BK, and that indicates the limit of their ability to restructure, then maybe they're not doing it right. I know I'm thinking like management, which comes with its' own perverted brand of logic, but I don't see how 5% cuts are material. Maybe it's because our cut was one order of magnitude higher. Actually it is very Japanese. Normally they will pay everyone less and keep more. Americans do not like this, and prefer to cut more and pay the remaining staff the same. My wife's company did the Japanese thing and gave across the board cuts but kept everyone. The Japanese bosses did not like that and told them to restore wages and cut 25% of the work force. They argued that, that logic would not work in this country as ppl would lose their loyalty to the company if the cut their wages for too long. So they did what the owners suggested. Cut 25% of the workforce and reinstated wages and 401K matching. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 766221)
What he said ^^^^^^. :D
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 766221)
What he said ^^^^^^. :D
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Oh Ferd, where are you? :D
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Has anybody else heard that we are we are moving all of the 767-400's to NYC in the next bid?
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Originally Posted by FlyingViking
(Post 766319)
Has anybody else heard that we are we are moving all of the 767-400's to NYC in the next bid?
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Originally Posted by FlyingViking
(Post 766319)
Has anybody else heard that we are we are moving all of the 767-400's to NYC in the next bid?
They were not sure where the 765 fit in NYC after this summer. They did not insinuate a larger or smaller category up there, only that there was a decision that was going to be made. I guess it is time to dig. All of I have heard is that, there is a ?-mark up there with the 765. No more no less. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 766322)
The public statement was:
They were not sure where the 765 fit in NYC after this summer. They did not insinuate a larger or smaller category up there, only that there was a decision that was going to be made. I guess it is time to dig. All of I have heard is that, there is a ?-mark up there with the 765. No more no less. IOW.. ready, fire, aim.... again. |
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